I just tried the link www.looppool.com and received an error message telling me to check the server or some such, so I suppose as far as my ISPs' concerned, the site has fallen through the loophole. And I didn't even necessarily need the whole loop, either. But the mp3 moments from Mr T's upcoming Splattercell CD <http://www.geocities.com/splattercell/> sound like he pooled some fine loops.. ...No - that's really quite enough Cheers David <http://www.davidcooperorton.co.uk>