RE: Roland VP9000

["Jonathan El-Bizri" <jonathan@full-moon.com>]

>Obviously some elaboration on your part would be appreciated-

Sure thing:

- The amount of time/pitch stretch is rather limited, you can't get 
anything
all that extreme, and even moderate stretching will cause artifacts and
problems.
- Setting up files to be stretch is a rather lengthy button pushing affair,
involving loading files and then allowing the system to 'process' them. 
It's
not an 'instant' gratification thing, and you can't 'batch process' files.
- The quality of the pitch/time stretch isn't very good - better than Sound
Forge, smoother than Acid (it's better than Acid for voice and other 
complex
natural instruments), about on par with Protools, but nowhere near as
realistic as Prosoniq's Time Factory.
- It only works with pre looped audio - despite what they say about 'riding
the gain' for VOR work, I couldn't imagine using it for this, (that's
probably of little interest to music makers, but for sound design, and
experimental music, it's yet another reason to avoid it.)
- It has those 'Roland tubbiness' D/A converters. (Don't get me wrong,
that's not always bad, but in this case, it's reason enough to avoid it.
- The UI stunk. The effects section was awful. Who puts an FX section in a
$3000 beat stretching tool? Who want's another stomp box sounding
chorus/delay/flanger?

At 3 grand (!) it's pretty obvious that they want to keep all the units for
themselves. I have no idea who would find this unit useful; there are >way<
cheaper, and better sounding alternatives. The only nifty trick it could do
was change a beat to triplets time. It's a flashy trick, but it's not
something I need to do every day, or ever. Apart from that, there were
absolutely no tools for modifying a sample, other than adding the afore
mentioned cheapo effects.


bIz


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-----Original Message-----
From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:42 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Roland VP9000

C

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" <jonathan@full-moon.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Roland VP9000


> I've demo'd this unit and presented a report to my boss and my conclusion
> was that it was waste of good plastic, so your mileage can (and does)
vary.
>
>
> bIz
>
>
> Tellme. News. Stock quotes. Movies. Excellent.
> 1.800.555.Tell
> biz's house of fun is temporaily unavailable. In the meantime, say
> 'extensions' and '76255' to get to biz's secret Tellme game.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Om_Audio [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:12 PM
> To: Loopers List
> Subject: Roland VP9000
>
> Damn yall, this is one bas ass box- I saw it at AES and just watched the
> demo video-
>
> How about loading 6 different loops and adjusting the tempo but not the
key-
> or the key but not the tempo-
> or how about using a midi keyboard to "play" a loop without altering the
> tempo? There is much more- just wanted to let you people know about what 
>I
> think is a kick ass tool-
>
> http://209.144.99.11/vp9000/vp9000.htm
>
> Cliff
>