Re: massive arrays of loopers

[rich <rich@nuvision.com>]

I would venture to guess that quite a few people on the list are doing 
this...

Currently my rig has a digitech pds 1002, line6 dl4, and lexi jamman.

my project cohorts are using mulitple delays and loopers as well 
(digi's, edp, etc).

In the piece we are working on, there are moments where we are 
totally knob twiddling.  We've captured enough information in the 
loop streams and then we're manipulating by adjusting feedback, delay 
times, and also pre and post processing with other effects and 
filters.  doesn't exactly push the envelope 'music theory and 
execution'-wise, but it sounds a whole lot more interesting than the 
guy at Guitar Center wanking off his pentatonic scales.

interesting portion of last night's rehearsal...we were just wrapping 
up, and one member got some really good stuff going, the other gent 
decides to check out his pedalboard and starts knob twiddling.  I had 
already put my guitar away, so i just took the cord, plugged it into 
the preamp out of his amp, and ran it through my fx chain and loopers 
and just started my own little mangle-thon, using his source.

regarding the dl4, i find it increasingly frustrating to use live. 
all the knobbies are nice, but they do unpredictable things if you're 
not careful.  also, changing delay models and tweaking leaves you 
stuck unless you decide to 'save' that preset.  say you're using the 
digital delay, and you have that saved (and all of your other slots 
have saved presets).  now start with the digital delay, and say you 
want to switch to the multi-head (but you don't have the multi-head 
as a saved preset).  so you just turn the model knob and go to the 
multi-head.  great, now ya start tweaking and you get something you 
really like.  now here comes a section where you have to turn the 
delay off, but you don't want to save over any of your other presets. 
no can do.  once you turn that multi-head setting off, it's gone.  if 
you switch it back on, it goes back to the 'digital delay' preset.

not to say that ruins the pedal.  it's got alot of strong points. 
i've just found it to be much more functional as a table top delay 
unit.  being able to have a space echo, stereo delay, rythmic delay, 
tube echoplex and more in one little box at 24bits is a very cool 
thing.

seeya,

rich




>Hi all,
>
>I am curious if anyone on the list is taking advantage of the relative
>cheapness of today's crop of loopers and is experimenting with arrays or
>multiple looping streams....e.g. to take advantage of things like feedback
>and multiple post-processing, relooping etc... sorry to be so vague, I 
>guess
>I'm asking about ideas that I myself haven't played with yet. For instance
>the DL4 has nice knobbies to play with - I wondered what it would be like 
>to
>make an array of these units, then send a loop in to the array and then 
>putz
>with the loop as it travels through array.
>
>Put simply, I am just curious as to whether or not people are using 
>multiple
>(cheap) looping devices in creative ways ?
>
>cheers,
>
>Darcy