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Re: Drum machine set up for looping rack - another cheap idea (or expensive cheap idea?)

Oo!  This thread is so inspiring for me!  Maybe I'm the only one
that hasn't tried this stuff before.

Okay, so take two drum machines snyched up together, or rather
to a common clock.  Now, imagine you could compose a drum
pattern on one and get a midi dump of that, run it through some
midi processor (Max et. al. - or something like Harvey Starr's
EventStation maybe?) which would remake or rearrange the pattern
according to either pre-programmed parameters or some kind of
live input (hmmm ...), and then dump the reconstituted pattern
to the other drum machine, crossfade between the two or what
have you ... ooo, and then use two stereo triggered gates
opening and closing out of synch ... <wig>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Lindauer" <hans@ernieball.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Drum machine set up for looping rack

> Hi Denis-
> I use two Oberheim DX's; one with factory MIDI in/out, and the
other with MIDI out only on the
> Stretch option.  Stretch is the clock master and sets the
tempo.  I use MIDI out on the other DX to
> sync a Jomox XBase 09, and then use its MIDI thru to sync an
EDP (now we're on topic).
> If I am playing bass, it is generally just to create a loop,
so I just run each machine into its own
> channel and generally mix them with the master level controls
on the drum machines.  One possible
> solution for you could be to use, for example, an Ernie Ball
Stereo/Pan Volume Pedal to pan between
> the left and right channels of your DR-5.  The 500K resistance
may not be ideal for line level, but
> it should work.  Alternatively, a Boss SE-70 effects processor
has a two-channel mixer as one of its
> patches, which is controllable via footpedal.  On the cheap,
you could even use an A/B switch to
> switch between the two, as long as you didn't want to hear
both at once.  I think there's even an
> A/B/A+B box out there somewhere, although it would be easy
enough to build your own.
> -Hans
> >
> >
> > Hans,
> > You indicate you use up to three drum machines.  How do you
route the
> > signals?  I am a guitarist and don't want to play a mixer at
the same time,
> > so a foot operated fader may work for me.  I could possibly
see a crossfader
> > set up to for left/right outputs of a Dmachine going into 2
channels of a
> > mixer and using a second Dmachine (an old DIY sync one)
going in separately
> > into a third channel.  This would get around the start
pointers and allow
> > the second Dmachine to be independently started and stopped.
> >
> > On thing I like about this is being able to add separate
effects. Blending
> > traditional Dsets with a set ran through a pitchshift
program to get a more
> > industrial sound, is one option I like a lot.
> > Using the second Dmachine for hand drum 3/2,2/3 son parts
would be cool.
> > IMHO  Bet none of the old units had any sounds for this
style, though.
> >
> > Tell me a little about your setup, if you would.