Re: Fractal looping

["Italo De Angelis" <italoop@libero.it>]

...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! ! !




----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Tauchen" <Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Fractal looping


>      Fortunately now a better description of "Fractional Looping".I was
not
> sure,if it was only
> meant for one special device,so I kept quiet.
>
> From that,what Italo described,I labeled this way of looping as
> "Poly-Looping" for my own looping.
> As I use also RingModulation and Frequencyshaping devices in my guitar
> gear,fractional looping
> has another sense to me. ;-)
>
> I use now up to eight loop devices,wich can establisch up to 12 seconds 
>of
> looping.This all is
> switched to a fexible rooting board.A kind of footpedal mixing console.
>
> The for me intersiting way of playing with such odd loops is the
> polyrhythmic experience.
> For a Stereo Setup it means,left looping device has 12 seconds of
delay,the
> right 11 seconds.
> Both with adjusted regenaration,wich can be expanded or compressed in
> realtime.
> The fluctuation of sound will be surprisingNow multiply it with eight
> sources with different
> settings in time.The result will be always new and surprising.
> Only with such a delay section,you can bring a simple guitar to an
> incredible PAD-sound.
> But when you use afterwards some Ringmodulation or other synth related
> Waveformshaping the result
> will be always new.
>
> But fractional delaying is a playfield,wich needs strong nerves.It is 
>like
a
> blank sheet of paper.
> Once you started with it,it will get an own life.
> It can be polyrhythmical,it can also be a PAD-sound changing 
>extremly.Real
a
> fine way to experience
> new sounds.Harmonically or Rhythmically.It depends on you.The field is
wide
> open.
> Well,this works also for other instruments.
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------
> >Von: "Italo De Angelis" <italoop@libero.it>
> >An: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping
> >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 15:39 Uhr
> >
>
> >For all of you interested in Fractal Looping, this is a multi lines
> >technique of looping. The idea is to have a main looping line with, say,
3
> >more lines. The fractal relation between them is about time length of
loops:
> >it will be set in a way to get polyrhythms between different copies of
the
> >same audio material. For instance, I might loop 4 bars of audio, in 4/4
at
> >130bpm; then I might choose that a second looper will repeat a 2 bars
> >truncated audio portion of the original, a third looper will repeat 11/8
of
> >the original loop and a fouth one maybe 5/8 or a dotted 1/2. Usually I
build
> >also tap tempo lfos that will pan the four loops around in quad audio,
> >according to the same rhythmic values or to different ones, in a circle,
or
> >cross or whatever other pattern or even randomly. I can also use pitch
> >shifters that will transpose monophonic loops to presets intervals (or
> >chords) according to the same rhythmic values. At the same time Orville
> >allows me to pre AND post process all those loops with dedicated AND
common
> >fx, like ring modulators, modulatable filters, chorus, flanger, phaser,
> >shifters, verbs, reverse shifters, reverse delays, reverbs, lo-fi
manglers
> >and ANYthing else I might think of.
> >I can also sample the whole thing in real time, edit it to change speed,
> >pitch or both, process the sample with FX...all in one 24bit box, with 4
> >minutes and 23 seconds of audio memory TOTALLY addressable by delay 
>style
> >loopers and samplers.
> >Programs can have almost unlimited number of looping lines, form 1 up to
a
> >couple of dozens...if you really want to get THAT crazy. Tom, SE70 is a
VERY
> >cool box but...forget this applications, we're talking OPEN system here,
> >meaning the user can totally configure the box in ANY way, building
> >algorithms on the unit or on a PC with Vsig, Eventide's graphical editor
> >freeware. If you all want to know more about the power AND the freedom 
>of
> >Eventides, you can download manuals from www.eventide.com and follow the
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> >
> >Best regards.........Italoop
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com>
> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fractal looping
> >
> >
> >> >16 delay lines at same time.....you talking big money,no?????
> >>
> >> my cheapsie little Boss SE-70 has a 20-tap flange so it's
> >> quite do-able without fancy hardware.
> >>
> >> in fact, you could have "as many taps as you liked" on a
> >> single delay line and not really consume very much CPU...
> >>
> >> /t
> >>
> >>
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