New DJRND3 User's Manual at http://perso.club-internet.fr/perille/userman3.htm Kim, I will let you update the LD tools_of_trade DJRND2 page to the new DJRND3 if you wish. Btw I was thinking about Cycloops : Could you add the "jogwheel robotic-like time-stretching effect" in the list of features of your LD Cycloops link please ? Thanks EP http://perso.club-internet.fr/perille