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RE: conceptual art and improvisation/Abstract vs. concrete



Title: RE: conceptual art and improvisation/Abstract vs. concrete
**okay, just wanted clarification. so you're interested in the theory. have you checked out webern's string quartet music? he uses the same sorts of ideas, but is less overtly "classical." (though he's not particularly tonal either.)

(btw, i'd say that, even though scheonberg was "demolishing tonality," he was really just extending the late romantic tradition to one logical extreme. i believe that bartok also had a tonality system, though i don't know much about it and it seems like too much for my little brain).  
 
stig 
true, but the methodology i meant was the 12-tone system.
i have a "chromatic" approach in that i like to explore sonorities that
fall outside western diatonic sounds, but i don't feel the need to
remove a sense of tonic to do so.  i appreciate his somewhat
mathematical approach (pitch class manipulations, combinatorial sets, etc..),
though i think of my approach as more geometric. i'm not sure i can explain what
i mean by that, we'll have to wait til i have some music available on-line...
 
 
 
>** does it depend on which era of schoenberg you listen to? some of his early stuff is very much in the late romantic tradition (wagner, mahler, r. strauss) - - not a hint of free atonality or 12-tone music.

>stig