Re: professional loopers?

["max valentino" <ekstasis1@hotmail.com>]

Add my name to that list!  And Steve Lawson...and, of course, our own 
illustrious Rick Walker (a.k.a Loop-pool), who, coincidentally, got me 
involved in looping altogether (thanks Rick!).
I do quite a few solo shows (bass and loops), we did the Solo Bass Looping 
tour earlier this summer....and I always have my JamMan in my rack when I 
play in groups and ensembles of various styles.  Often I will just add 
some 
loops to tunes during rehearsal to see "how they fly", and usually they 
work.  I have added loops to  rock, even country and blues tunes, if only 
for added texture.
And...on that subject...a few days ago Kim replied to a thread concerning 
improvisation and loops. He put forth a few ideas, which I am sure he 
intended for 'plex users, concerning the "flow" of loops and how to make 
looped performances less like "driving thru a thick noisy fog and slamming 
into a brick wall".  I printed that post up, got out my MIDI pedal and 
have 
begun, again, to make use of the somewhat limited (by 'plex and 'peater 
standards) MIDI features of the JamMan (such as MIDI fade, mute, and 
multiple loops) trying to again get to a more "musical" loop presentation. 
 
That is opposed to the lay-down-some-groove-and-noodle-endlessly-over-it 
way 
of working.
When I first started looping I was using drum machines (sometimes two 
simultaneously) to clock all the loops, allowing for well placed A-B 
sections.  But, drum machines do have a limitation...mainly in the 
audience 
reluctance to accept mecahnical, computerized sequences as musical 
expression.  Playing solo bass, even with loops, the audience would be 
wrapt, but start a sequencer and I had lost them.
Then I began using the bass itself to produce drum parts, which I looped.  
I 
dumped the MIDI pedals (due to a bad latency in the JamBoy)...but this led 
me to do loops which certainly fit into KIm's Fog/wall analogy.  Thanks, 
Kim....the fog has lifted and my loops are much more interesting, as are 
my 
compositions.
That's what I love about this list; free exchage of ideas, concepts, and 
certainly help from others.
Max

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>  there are folks like phil keaggy, bill frisell and myself who tour and
>perform solo concerts that are almost entirely loop based, but who also
>sometimes do "regular" concerts with a band that involve somewhat less
>looping. but yes, you can count me as someone who makes a reasonable 
>living
>mainly by making loops in a live context...
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>ric hordinski
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>monk@fuse.net
>www.monkmusic.com
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>on 9/29/01 7:04 PM, Matthias Grob at matthias@grob.org wrote:
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> > I am wondering how many of us make a living out of looping.
> > DT does, Mich Gerber, Stefan Keller,,, but I dont know about all 
>others...
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> > So my question to all:
> > Do you create music that could not be played (or presented at a
> > suficient low cost) without loop technology and make a considerable
> > part of the income out of it?
> > Do you know such musicians that are not on the list?
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