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Re: Soundscapes/Frippertronics debate finale
pbadore@rochester.rr.com writes:
>To Hedawa7 for the last time:
>1. I refuse to capitalize your entire name in a childish effort to boost
>your ego. The heading doesn't do so, and neither will I.
you misunderstood me;
i was trying to get ya to SPELL it correctly, is all.
>2. > again, i understood you to mean 'all' or 'most' loopists, not just
>those
>> arising from the legions of robert's quasi-disciples.
>You still think I'm calling every looper a soundscaper.
no, i don't.
>I don't know how
>you got started with that crap. Please read my original message again
>carefully and with consideration this time, if you still have it on file.
i quoted you, in my last email, to show you why i misunderstood you.
> I
>was making a simple observation about a few of my fellow
>"quasi-disciples".
>Talk about minor ignorance! I have to blow my nose, now.
nice!
<snips quotes of my bullshit re: synthesis vs. innovation>
>I think synthesizers are highly innovated, but everything depends on the
>player. A car is only as good as the driver.
i think you misunderstood me, there; i was talking about creative *people*
as
either synthesizers or as innovators.
>I don't give a damn what
>the
>media portrays, but I also don't give a damn about people who ignore
>changing times. I was one of the latter for a ten-year period: Nothing
>but
>oldies rock and hard bop, and that followed a period where I had started
>taking an interest in electronic music for a short period of time. Too
>complicated to go into, but I practically had to start all over again when
>I
>woke up (hey, I'm not perfect, either!). But I digress. I still face
>a lot
>of poo-pooing about my "sudden change of character", as described by
>several
>people. I like my GR-33 and other new effects, but to each one's own.
>Although I'm aware of the control few people have over it, I grow tired
>of
>the media being blamed for everything. For crying out loud, 2001 is
>almost
>over! Move on!
will do!
<snips quote of my nearly pointless story>
>Here you have my sympathy, but I've learned over the years it's useless
>to
>try and point these things out. We all have egos and you just gotta go
>with
>the flow. Did you compliment him on his chord?
*-)
probably very quietly as he walked away.....
<snipping>
>7. (My quote) >I also hope Soundscapes is becoming the new
>> >fashionable term as "ambient" has now lost its original meaning when
>Eno
>> >first conceived it.
>(Yours) > neither of the 2 terms has any meaning for me, anymore,
>personally:
>> s'just a buncha presumably organised verbal blather, bleached of meaning
>by a
>> largely numb audience painfully over-eager to define (and be enslaved
>by)
>> idioms.
> Whatever. I was joking, y'know.
okay!
>8. Finally, I couldn't get the damned Repeater to work! Now I gotta go
>back tomorrow!
that's technology, for ya.....
>No hard feelings but I don't deny my bluntness,
so it goes.
best,
dt / s-c