Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #717

[A.Willers@t-online.de (A.Willers)]

Well, saturated/distorted guitar sounds are a very, very subjective thing 
and generally everybody should go ahead and use what gives good results to 
his/her ear, period. But I am a little alergic to these amp simulators 
because they are promissing you something they will never be able to live 
up to. One of the most important factors for a Marshall sound is the 4x12" 
cab with Celestions. There is no way on earth that you can duplicate this 
in a digital bean shaped box, it's physically impossible.

The whole thing reminds me of the fact that people got so used to the 
taste 
of canned pineaple over time that a wide majority of people in a test 
found 
freshly squeezed pineable juice 'artificial tasting' as opposed to canned 
juice. Beware of the brainwash, guys! 

That said I have to admit that a) I have used sansamp pedals with fair 
results myself (the TriOD, for example, has a nice 'british' and a 
horrible 
'tweed' sound in it), b) that Centara amp I mentioned seems to do a good 
job (but as I said, it is a big, heavy and expensive stereo 2x12" amp), c) 
I have the tried Line 6 stuff on three or four occasions and almost always 
found them terrible sounding. I have to work with rented or borrowed stuff 
occasionally and even with some goofy Boss pedals and a Twin with Sovtech 
tubes I'd manage to get by I think, but the Pod even has a latency 
problem...almost like a Midi-guitar. Again, given time one might be able 
to 
get more out of them, esp. in the studio. I have trouble with those soft 
knobs that turn without knowing when they dial in etc. 

TO GET BACK OT: I just played a Solo gig in a not-too-small club with two 
little 6V6 tube amps as an experiment, one '62 Fender and one '59 Gibson 
and put my modified G-force and EDP between the overdrive pedal (Baby Blue 
OD) and amps..........the tone was so phantastic (to my ears) it made me 
literally scream. I played a festival for classical guitar music earlier 
with the Gibson and an old Bassman amp a got congratulated for my great 
tone by prominent classical guitarists and boroque lute players. Then 
again, recording a great amp sound is another story, who knows what we 
will 
beusing ten years from now :-)
andreas  

> i have to second this.
> i also have the pod (v 1) and though i have not fully explored the 
> possibilities,
> i think manual mode allows for some nice sounds.
> i don't like the presets much at all.
> the emulations are just ok but are much easier than hauling several amps 
> to a gig.
> once the guitar is buried in the mix by a drums and vocals sound guy, 
>they
> are probably indistinguishable from the real thing anyway...
> 
> my only problem with this box is that you can't really overdrive it like 
> a real tube amp.
> you can kind of fake it with the controls, but you have to think 
> differently.
> (you can't just throw a tube screamer in front of it and crank the level)
> 
> i think it is a great looper tool, because you can loop the amp sound 
> without
> having to mike it.  running a looper between guitar and amp just doesn't 
> cut it for me.
> 
> > Hi Andreas. Have you really ever tried a pod??? Or some line6 
>products? 
> Or
> > have you only heard the preset sounds???
> > Having had and used some marshalls, fenders and laneys I find that the
> > emulations in the pods are really good (certainly you have to use it 
> with
> > some good power amp or pa system, not in front of a guitar amp or on a
> > multimedia desktop system)...but I skipped completelly the presets 
> (those
> > really suck), I use it in manual mode, and create my sounds from 
> scratch.