I Talked to Steve Roach at Borders books here in vegas last night, he was here with his wife who just released a book. I asked him what he uses for looping devices, he said he uses 3 jam man's, 1 repeater, 1 echopro(not echoplex?) and a line 6. Also there will be collaboration album with him and Robert Fripp coming out soon. Sounds interesting. BongoBill