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Re: Vortex revisited



Andy
I was able to replicate morphing putting two algorithms together in the 
same patch and X-fading between them. Now, I know Vortex claims that 
morphing is different from X-fade but I'm not sure if it does one or 
the other. I would think it does more X-fade than real morphing.
Anyway, Orville does good things in the X-fade style. Those points in 
between...you know what I'm talking about...are cool and OUT!
I was able to replicate some patches sounds better than others. The 
manual is just a general idea of those algos.
You can splice loops (ABABA) with multitap delays feeding a morphing 
routing matrix...tricky but possible to do.
Besides that you can do things that cannot be imagined if not heard.
Machines, no matter what is their power and platform openess, are 
always different. But provided an extremely detailed algorithm 
information, Orville is the only hardware able to replicate it.
I only wish Lexicon gave the user a deeper documentation.
They never seemed to be interested to Vortex at all. If it only had at 
least 10 sec delay I would still own one.

best regards
Italoop

> > This is not correct; using the unit's manual algorithms drawings I w
as 
> >  able to replicate almost all Vortex algorithms on my Eventide Orvil
le.
> >  These algos also work on DSP4000/GTR4000/DSP4500/DSP7000/DSP7500.
> >  Having a better and more in depth description of Vortex algos would
 
> >  improve my design a bit. The manual doesn't tell the whole story, o
f 
> >  course. 
> 
> Hi Italo
> Did you get each and every algorithm to morph into every other?
> The manual doesn't tell you how to do this at all, as some parameter 
> values are present in one algorithm, but not in an other.
> So as you morph away from one algorithm what happens to those values?
> They don't stay constant .
> Seems to me they head towards either 1 or 64, and that this is respons
ible 
> for some of the Vortex "wierdness".
> 
> Also I wonder if you've duplicated the timbres of the various Vortex F
X?
> Some of the patches I have are a long way from the supplied presets,
> would your system duplicate them ?
> 
> Can you take two separate loops, and splice them together into one lon
g loop?
> (so it sounds ABABABAB)   (and looking at the Orville manual, nothing 
is 
> impossible)
> 
> ...and if you can do that, I presume that you could also do similar so
rts of 
> things that the Vortex can't.
> (even forgetting about pitchshifting and filtering)
> 
> If you need any info as to the Vortex algos, you can always drop me a 
line, 
> and I can probably work it out for you.
> 
> andy butler (can't afford an Orville, which costs about 25 times what 
my 
> Vortex did) 
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