Re: Real Woes - Was: D-Cell Rocketh The Haus

[Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net>]

As a Mac user, I'm getting sick of the format wars in media files.  
Microsoft has been reasonably good for Mac users, though some really 
nice features of it's codec don't work for the Mac OS.  Real is just a 
monster in every way.  Why do people use it again?  I hope that mpeg 4 
comes and unites us all in a Zagnatronic 12 Galaxies.

Mark

On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, at 12:57  AM, Stephen P. Goodman wrote:

> Yep.  Now that Real/AOL/Time-Warner has safely absorbed even the 
> venerable
> WinAmp (I find it difficult to understand how AOL's been allowed to 
> purchase
> their competition since 1996), it's taking off the disguise and 
> revealing
> itself as "RealOne".  Unfortunately the player is more than a player, 
> and
> probably has more trick cookie transmissions in it than anyone's ever 
> darkly
> dreamed.  And there's no other option now, if you want to play Real 
> content.
> What a surprise.  The only thing keeping me from converting everything
> online to Windows Media is its limited support on Macs - but I doubt 
> that
> Mac users would support such a behemoth as Real/AOL/Time-Warner.  Or 
> would
> they?  What's the Mac contingent say?
>
>> EXACTLY!  I HATE REALPLAYER!  Does it really give you anything that 
>> mp3s
>> or quicktime doesn't already?  Damn, Windows Media player is better!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2002, at 09:01  PM, Neil Goldstein wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way besides Real Audio to hear this? I swore I wouldn't put
>>> that
>>> on my machine, its caused grief in the past.
>>>
>>>
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 8:42 PM
>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>> Subject: Re: D-Cell Rocketh The Haus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a,
>>>>> Great set from Mr. DT-SC on KCRW this morning (but all too brief, in
>>>>> my
>>>>> mind.)
>>>> thanks, dude --- i was pretty nervous about playing this
>>>> thing..... been in
>>>> studios so much, working assiduously on lotsa other folks' stuff,
>>>> etc etc.....
>>>>
>>>>> Had a '70s Miles David vibe to it in many places,
>>>> right..... semi-consciously trying to git back to my don
>>>> cherry/ecm roots, a
>>>> bit.....
>>>>
>>>>> I thought (and
>>>>> in that context, the one chromatic descending chord figure in the 
>>>>> one
>>>>> tune reminded me of "John McLaughlin..." a deliberate quote?)
>>>> .....nope, it just kinda happened!
>>>>
>>>>> What a mother of a rhythm section, too.  (Fima's tone...!!!)
>>>> fima's a funkyfunky dude.....
>>>> and ben was *really* fun to play with!
>>>>
>>>>> Dumb techniqe question here: Sounded to me like one of the first 
>>>>> loops
>>>>> in there was a brief EDP loop spun off a single note, then tweaked
>>>>> with
>>>>> some unquantized insertmode=replace action.  Am I somewhat close?
>>>>> (Yeah, I'm a trainspotter.)
>>>> yeah; i used that at least a few times, i think --- couldn't seem
>>>> to get the
>>>> edp output to be quite loud enough, sometimes, though..... getta get
>>>> this
>>>> broke-thing fixed, i guess.....
>>>> 8-(
>>>>
>>>> (the repeater re-pitching/hyperfast-re-triggering elements shoulda 
>>>> been
>>>> pretty prominent; at least, they certainly were onstage.....)
>>>>
>>>>> For those who missed it, check out http://www.kcrw.org to hear the
>>>>> live
>>>>> archive.
>>>>> Great to hear you playing again, Mr. Torn!  (And good news to hear
>>>>> about
>>>>> the forthcoming Splattercell album, probably on Razor and Tie...)
>>>> thanks much, and thanks again.....
>>>> best,
>>>> dt / splattracell
>>>>
>>>
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