RE: repeater pc import/export software - need comments

["Paul Weissman" <paul@nioterra.com>]

thanks for the responses everyone.  since it seems like there's some decent
interest, i'll try to give you a better picture of what exactly i'm working
on.

as of today both extracting .wav data from a Track file to another .wav 
file
(with no leading or trailing dead space) and creating Repeater compatible
Track files from arbitrary .wav files are working.  these two functions are
already starting to be big time savers for me.

within a few more iterations of the program, it should be easy to a) point
the program at the root directory of a Repeater file hierarchy and have it
extract all the .wav files from the entire hierarchy to another directory
and b) point the program at a directory containing your own .wav file loops
and have the program create a set of directories that mimic a Repeater file
hierarchy with Track files that contain your loops.  does that make sense?

in it's first incarnation, this utility is simply going to be a command 
line
utility for Windows.  (and Unix for all the freaks who love managing their
loops on unix)  i don't have a mac, but i can look into what it will take 
to
make that happen.  also, in order to get clean loops, for the time being
you're going to have to 'trim' your loops in repeater before exporting.  of
course, if you want all the data that's in there, you don't have to do 
this.

the only bad news is that i've got a trip coming up and i've got to spend 4
days in the studio working on some tracks so my time will be limited.  
it'll
be a couple weeks before i can polish a releasable version off.

in the meantime... does anyone have any server space where i can put the
files?  i might have some, but some other options would be nifty.

more responses and ideas are definitely welcome!

to answer some questions:

> Wow- how cool! You might consider posting to the Electrix Forum
> with this- I
> am sure plenty of people would be interested- heck- if the code is good
> enough I bet you could get Electrix to support it as an Electrix
> app- maybe.

i'll just be psyched if i can get electrix to release some basic info about
their file formats to me (and the community in general)... if i had more
info, even cooler things could happen.

> I would love to be able to audition loops on my pc as they would on the
> Repeater- and not just going into the folder and playing 1 of the
> 4 tracks.
> Maybe even just a select-and-hear type operation- click once on a
> folder and
> hear the loops-

unfortunately unless Electrix releases the exact algorithms that they use 
to
do pitch shifting and loop playback, no one can write software to do this.
what this utility will do is just extract the raw wave data from the files
and put them in new files.  however, you can resample your loops in your
repeater and then export the wav files for further manipulation.

> Super Cool!  You might want to mention this on the repeater-users yahoo
> group too.  I'm interested in your package and it seems like an obvious

didn't know about it, signing up... thanks!

> thing to do!  If I have a single 4 second wave file that is 8 beats long,
> can I use your tool to create a repeater loop out of it?  If so
> you've got a
> winner of a program.  I bet Electrix would possibly even be interested...

yup, that's the idea!

> Definitely interested.  I considered doing something like this
> myself, but Electrix told me that they were going to release one
> eventually.  That was a long, long time ago...

maybe this'll help give 'em a kick in the butt... :)

> It would be awesome to have the files convertable to .acd files (the 
>files
> for ACID, the Sonic Foundry looping program) and
> maybe a conversion to .AIFF files for the mackies out there.

at some point i could look into this, but there are already good programs
that do batch file conversion.  however, with this utility it'll be a 
simple
2 step process to get them into whatever format you need them in.

oh... one thing that's a pain for me is splitting stereo files, so i'll
probably include that as part of the utility to.  so if you have a stereo
drum track, this util will split it up and then convert both L and R into a
separate Track files for the Repeater.

paul









> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clifford Novey [mailto:om@om-studios.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: repeater pc import/export software - need comments
>
>
> Wow- how cool! You might consider posting to the Electrix Forum
> with this- I
> am sure plenty of people would be interested- heck- if the code is good
> enough I bet you could get Electrix to support it as an Electrix
> app- maybe.
>
> I would love to be able to audition loops on my pc as they would on the
> Repeater- and not just going into the folder and playing 1 of the
> 4 tracks.
> Maybe even just a select-and-hear type operation- click once on a
> folder and
> hear the loops-
>
> Cliff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Weissman" <paul@nioterra.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:13 PM
> Subject: repeater pc import/export software - need comments
>
>
> >
> > i just finished an early version of a utility that allows users
> to extract
> > wave data from repeater Track files and create repeater
> compatible Tracks
> > from your own loops.  this will (hopefully) alleviate the need
> for all the
> > manual loop creation and editing that you have to do to get
> your material
> in
> > and out of the repeater.
> >
> > i'm curious what the interest in a public release of such a
> tool would be.
> > anyone interested?  if so, i can clean it up and make it available.
> >
> > any other things that you'd like a utility like this to do?
> >
> > paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>