Re: ambient then rhythmic?

[Andre LaFosse <altruist@earthlink.net>]

DialaThos@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone here do loop pieces that perhaps start out in ambient 
>fashion (no
> real time) and then move into looped rhythmic parts?  

Yep!

>  Is it necessary to have two units?

Nope!

> Is there a way to do this on the EDP?  I'm hunting through the manual 
>today,
> but it seems the only way to extend the length of a loop is via insert 
>(which
> doesn't overdub on the original material).

Several ways, actually:

1) Use UnRounded Multiply (ending Multiply with Record) while playing a
rhythmic figure, and hit record (to end the multiply) in time with the
new rhythm you're playing, so you have a new loop that's been redefined
to the length of the rhythm you're playing.

2) Set sync=out, take an audio cable out of the beatsync jack, and use
the click track which ensues (which the EDP automatically generates when
sync=out, according to the value of 8th/beat) as an audible reference of
where the pulse is within the loop.

3) Use the flashing tempo LED in LoopIV to get a visual cue of where the
pulse is within the loop, and overdub material using the LED as a 
reference.

4) Use 8th/beat quantization in LoopIV to drop new material into the
loop via Replace or Substitute.  For an example of this technique in
action: http://www.altruistmusic.com/soundfiles/glitch.mp3

5) Use Insert=SUS in Stutter Mode to "stretch" sections within a cycle,
in order to elongate different sections until an originally arythmic
loop starts assuming a tangible rhythmic form.  Examples:
http://shoko.calarts.edu/~altruist/generator.mp3 or 
http://www.altruistmusic.com/ram/ttgtr2.ram

That's what I can think of right now, anyway...

--Andre