Re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident

[Goddess <thefates@earthlink.net>]

  Claude, I just sang, and it came out this way.  I'd love to play it for
you, but I'm not sure I have enough space in my personal web space at the
moment.  Is there a place I could upload it to?  -Or can I e-mail it to you
privatelY?  
  As far as getting turned on to palindromic polyrhythms and simple
palindromic rhythms, I first played with them quite unexpectedly, since I
realized I needed a 9 count when recording in reverse to get a chord to
match up with the beginning of a forward track.  That way, I'd have a four
count forward, and a four count backward, and could get them both dead-on.
<smile>  I thought it was way cool!  lol!  
  Anyway, I then was introduced to polyrhythms, some of which being
palindromic, through Music Craft and Guitar Craft.  
  This vocal loop just happened though.  I was really surprized  not to be
able to tell the direction.  anyway, if you'd  like to hear it, -just
lemme' know what you'd like me to do, K?  

Smiles,

CQ

At 12:02 PM 7/20/02 +0200, you wrote:
>GODDESS
>
>can we have a listen to this accident
>or isnt it the instinctive result of your sutained work with those
stuctures in
>your guitar playing
>that made you sing palindromic by instinct
>work and search always land in your instinctive playing (finnaly....;=)
>
>where can I find more info on the palindromic uses in music
>how did you discover this way of generating structures
>are there others ways
>very interested
>
>Claude
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Goddess" <thefates@earthlink.net>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:35 AM
>Subject: re: GODDESS's forward/reverse 'accident
>
>
>>   hey Rick, woohoo!, still up and loopy!   lol!  Thanks for the tips.  I
>> play around with palindromic polyrhythms and teach them in my lessons, I
>> also used to use simple  rhythmic palindromes  as count-ins when 
>recording
>> in reverse with tape.  So I'm familiar with the concepts.  I can't wait 
>to
>> try these out!
>>   Yes, amy and I have been corresponding a bit lately.  I wish I got to 
>see
>> the festival.
>>   Something I found particularly interesting about my vocal loop is that
>> there's alot of sliding of notes relative to eachother,  changing chords
>> between tension and resolve, and despite all this, it's still almost
>> impossible for me to tell which direction this was recorded at.  It's
>> pretty wild!
>>   Anyway, nighters for now, -will talk soon, K?
>>
>> Hugs,
>>
>> CQ
>>
>> At 01:11 AM 7/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Dear Goddess,
>> >
>> >Viz a vis this idea of forwards and backwards loops.
>> >Try this on for size:
>> >
>> >Start playing around with some palindromic rhythms.
>> >
>> >an example would be this simple rhythm in 5/8
>> >
>> >
>> >5/8   ||: D*T*D :||
>> >
>> >where D = a bass note
>> >      T = a treble note
>> >      * = a rest
>> >
>> >These could be melodic or percussive sounds.
>> >
>> >Flip 'em over backwards and , voila, you have the same rhythm coming as
>> >going!!!!
>> >
>> >Here's a beautiful rhythm from Cuba called 'Cascara' that is 
>rhythmically
>> >palindromic:
>> >
>> >||:  T*TT*T*TT*T*TT*T  :||
>> >     1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
>> >
>> >*by the way, if these rhythms don't line up, select them and change the
font
>> >to courier or andale (fixed width fonts that make all characters line 
>up).
>> >That's how we send rhythms on the frame drummers list without having to
use
>> >a notation program.
>> >
>> >Now make the melody palindromic as well, as in:
>> >
>> >||:  1*33*5*77*5*33*1  :||
>> >     1e+a2e+a3e+a4e+a
>> >
>> >I'm using 1, 3, 5 and 7 as whatever degree of whatever mode or scale 
>you
>> >happen to choose (hence, locrian mode would be 1,  flat 3,  flat 5,  
>flat
>> >7).
>> >
>> >You see what I mean?     Excellent for forwards and backwards and 
>forwards
>> >playing that still stays 'consonant' both rhythmically and 
>harmonically.
>> >
>> >Try it,  you'll like it..........  <smile>
>> >
>> >Hope you are well.  How's that new repeater coming along?  Can't wait 
>to
>> >hear you perform at the World's First All Woman Looping Festival, 
>October
>> >4th at the San Jose Museum of Art.  Amy X Neuburg was phenomenal and
>> >phenomenally well recieved at this past weeks' Y2K2 Loopfest, btw, and 
>she
>> >will also be on the bill with you as the headliner.  It's going to kick
>> >butt.
>> >
>> >warmly,   Rick Walker (loop.pool)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
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>eachother.
>> -Then, anything is possible..."
>>
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>>
>
>


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