Re: Loop approach: Loop as effect

[Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net>]

Well, I wasn't trying to change the definition of "Effect" I just 
consider anything between the instrument and the listener to be an 
effect.  I still think of the EDP as a very complex digital delay.  Sure 
you can manipulate it, but that's true of almost all my effects 
processors.  Who cares if people don't use the realtime controls?  Screw 
them.

I feel the same way about the Art vs. Craft issue (which I will never 
debate again, so don't go there).  Why wouldn't a lot of people accept 
the definition of these words?  I know why.  It's because they've got 
value's implied, craft's people feel the term "craftsperson" (HI RICK!) 
is derogatory.

Same thing with effect.  "Oh, he/she sounds good, but they're just 
playing through a lot of effects."  It's got a bad connotation.  I think 
people resist the term "effect" because of it's stigma.  Why would a 
digital delay with a feedback of 100% no longer be an effect?  At what 
feedback% does a delay stop being an effect?  How many extra features 
does a delay have to have before it stops being an effect?  This is what 
I don't get.  The EDP and the Repeater are EFFECTS!  They move what 
you've played forward IN TIME!

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 01:36  AM, Kim Flint wrote:

>  The nuance of choosing one word over another is gone. Why do you want 
> that? Let the words be distinct and hold clear meaning. If all the 
> words begin to mean everything, than you won't be able to say anything 
> at all.