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Re: Quantize=8th...
Andy thanks for the tip we need once in a while mails
like this brother!
Cheers
L.a
>
> I personally haven't, but if you're interested in
> 8th-quant polyrhythms,
> try this on for size:
>
> 1) Plug a pedal into the feedback hack
> 2) Set Insertmode to Substitute
> 3) Set Interface mode (under "loop/delay"
> parameters) to either Stutter
> or Replace
>
> The reason for number 3 is that, because the pedal
> controls feedback in
> these modes, the actual front panel knob becomes a
> "Substitute Feedback"
> control. Which simply means that you can adjust how
> much of the
> original loop will still be heard when using
> Substitute.
>
> If you turn the front feedback knob all the way to
> the left, then
> Substitute will cover up all of the original
> material in the loop. If
> you turn it all the way to the right, then
> Substitute basically becomes
> Overdub - you can still hear the original material
> in the loop after
> you perform the Substitute function.
>
> So, you could lay down a 4/4 groove in a
> single-cycle loop, and then set
> 8th/cycle to, say, 5. If you start doing
> 8th-quantized Substitute
> business with the front Feedback knob full right,
> then you'll get these
> 5:4 polyrhythms happening, but it'll be a truly
> audible polyrhythm,
> because you'll still be able to hear the original
> loop content (because
> you turned the Feedback knob all the way to the
> right in Stutter or
> Replace mode).
>
> Jesus, that reads a lot more complex than it actuall
> is, I promise.
>
> > - any conceptual ideas to pass on?
>
> Me? Conceptual ideas? What on Earth are you
> talking about?! Now if
> you'd asked for good beer recommendations...
>
> - I like using 8th-quant with Substitute a lot,
> because it's a very
> surprising, subtle, and smooth way of changing
> things. You can play
> stuff into the EDP and not have any idea how it's
> going to sound until
> you hear it back. But because 8th-quant is on, it
> will automatically
> have a highly rhythmic quality. Kind of like giving
> glitch-core a nice
> suit and a haircut. (Can you tell I need to get out
> of the house more?
> And get a haircut?)
>
> It's particularly cool if you set the 8th/cycle
> value to a higher value
> than you could realistically play in real time, i.e.
> putting 8th/cycle
> to 16 at a tempo where one cycle = 180 BPM or so.
>
> - Use some variation when you're doing 8th-quant
> stuff. Hold the
> replace button down for different lengths of time to
> introduce some
> variation in the length of the replace/substitute
> action, to get away
> from the "step sequencer" feel, and try adding a few
> drops of silence by
> hitting the button without playing anything into it.
>
>
> Or try doing lots of replace/substitute in one part
> of a loop, but
> leaving the rest of the loop unaltered, for a sort
> of post-Timbaland
> start-stop effect. (Dude, I'm giving away all my
> good tricks here...)
>
> - Like Per said, 8th-quant in conjunction with
> changing speed is a lot
> of fun.
>
> > I'm kind of experimenting with glitchy FSU stuff
> at the moment,
>
> You're well on your way to being the first guy to
> open for both Level 42
> and Autechre...
>
> > but wondering about more predictable processes and
> outcomes...
>
> ...which is interesting to hear you say, since I
> find 8th-quant most
> useful for UN-predictable outcomes. It does impose
> a more assuredly
> rhythmic effect, but I find that when I know
> precisely what I want to do
> with Replace stuff, I like having Quantize off,
> because I can be more
> accurate and exact with the way I use it.
>
> 8th-quant is like automatic transmission, and
> unquantized is like
> driving a stick.
>
> > Anyone with an EDP who hasn't got Loop IV yet, you
> are missing out on so
> > many very very cool features... get it, and let
> the features teach you some
> > new stuff... :o)
>
> True dat. And mad props to Andy Butler for coming
> up with 8th-quant in
> the first place.
>
> As is horribly apparent by now, I'm in very dire
> need of a brisk walk
> and a cup of coffee...
>
> Most best,
>
> --Andre LaFosse
> The Echoplex Analysis Pages:
> http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP
>
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