Re: whats up with Pete Townsend?

["S.P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net>]

To answer that flip remark, No.  We haven't been told about the "ordinary"
people who've been nailed in this situation, nor have we been told about
enough details to make a judgement call on it.  I must admit wondering why
we've only seen Elton John saying something in his defense, at the AMA
recently.  I don't know whether that says a lot about Pete Townshend's 
other
so-called friends, or the media being selective with their data.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louie Angulo" <laab2000us@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:50:AM
Subject: Re: whats up with Pete Townsend?


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> man,i guess fame does has its price doesn´t it?
> cheers
> l.a
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> > It comes down to a couple of actual facts, which are
> > certainly never
> > reported as much as the wild speculation and
> > insinuation preferred by the
> > press in the UK.  So far this morning, Pete's still
> > not been charged with
> > anything, and he's out on bail, as well as
> > volunteered his PC and CDs for
> > police examination.  No word after several days as
> > to whether or not the
> > coppers actually found anything.  The only fact
> > involved so far is the
> > acquisition of his credit card info by an apparently
> > notorious child porn
> > web site running out of Texas, that was recently
> > shut down.  Most Americans
> > have already heard about how the Postal Service not
> > only has their own
> > police force, but also has run stings in even
> > "straight" porn, placing ads
> > in magazines for mail-order and 900 numbers - and
> > anyone who gets in touch
> > with them is apparently guilty as hell, even if they
> > were just mildly
> > curious and decided to mail/call.
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> > It was the US Postal Service that gave Pete
> > Townshend's info to the police
> > in the UK, having found his credit card data in
> > their culling through the
> > confiscated stuff from the Texas bust.  It's
> > unfortunate and also
> > unfortunately typical that British Tabloids (which
> > include the Guardian by
> > the way) have decided to convict him before any
> > evidence beyond this single
> > fact has been found - but if one reads the articles
> > (if one knows how to
> > sift through all the innuendo, vagueries and
> > scandalous non-facts that is)
> > you'll find that the only facts so far involve the
> > credit card data, and
> > Pete's handing over his PC and CDs before being
> > asked to do so.
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> > I think back however on the fact that
> > quasi-paedophilic material has been
> > openly marketed to the world-at-large (and
> > especially in the US) publicly
> > and without any criticism whatsoever for years upon
> > years.  Remember "Bugsy
> > Malone"?  Jon-Benet Ramsey's cavorting in full
> > makeup etc?  So now, after
> > years of this, a few folks being human get a little
> > curious about it (and by
> > this I don't obviously mean paedophiles), and not
> > being on kiddy-porn
> > mailing lists, go to a site to see what is going on,
> > and get prompted to
> > enter their credit card data.  Theoretically it
> > could be as simple as that.
> > I recall that Pete Townshend not only has worked
> > with anti-child abuse
> > organizations in the past, but has said that he was
> > abused himself as a
> > child.  Many songs from "Tommy" ("Fiddle About" and
> > "The Acid Queen" come to
> > mind) might then have greater perspective, yes?
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> > If you think about it though, all of those
> > 'age-verification' routines
> > involve a credit card.  It might have been something
> > as seemingly innocuous
> > as this that yielded Pete Townshend's credit card
> > data - which as you should
> > know is not presented as the same thing as paying
> > for entrance to such a
> > site.  Perhaps the Postal Service and the screaming
> > puritans running their
> > private police force think otherwise, and have
> > decided to present such as
> > the exact opposite.  In the meantime the stingee
> > swings in the media wind,
> > convicted by proxy and innuendo.
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> > Before the Internet, British tabloids didn't tend to
> > be read outside the UK,
> > though their antics were certainly infamous
> > world-wide.  Now they might have
> > to improve their responsibility factor, and live up
> > to the standards held by
> > the legitimate press.  You'd think that having a
> > good deal to do with the
> > exascerbated conditions leading up to Princess Di's
> > death would have caused
> > this to occur.  But then I'm probably wrong.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Tibert" <tibbe@pi.se>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 09:25:AM
> > Subject: Re: whats up with Pete Townsend?
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> > > On Wednesday, Jan 15, 2003, at 10:07
> > Europe/Stockholm, Louie Angulo
> > > wrote:
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> > > > I just listened to the news about Pete Townsend
> > jesus,
> > > > is this just celebrity sensationalism or for
> > real?
> > > > cheers
> > > > L.a
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,874192,00.html
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