Re: looping with a mic

[Alex Stahl <alex@pixar.com>]

I've had pretty good results using inexpensive lavalier type mics 
mounted to the inside of frame drums and some other percussion 
instruments that I like to play very quietly (other musicians seem to 
like it when I play rhythm very quietly too :-). The most fun I had 
was with an amercian frame drum, I put four mics inside, for the four 
directions, and panned them into a quad P.A. (of course applying way 
too much signal processing too). Brushing and tapping around the 
perimeter of the drum sounded like a storm building on the horizon.

I've used the Radio Shack lavaliers (about $25), and also the little 
Panasonic electret elements that you can buy from Digikey for just a 
couple dollars, and there's even a circuit diagram in their catalog. 
I'd recommend that a very rich person try out a set of Sanken 
lavaliers (and send them to me if they don't like them ;-).

-Alex S.


At 8:52 AM -0800 1/23/03, Greg House wrote:
>--- Matthias Grob <matthias@grob.org> wrote:
>>  >--- Matthias Grob <matthias@grob.org> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  Its the biggest problem I have when playing with Giba: Even without
>>  >>  monitors, my guitar leaks a little into his mikes, so when I stop 
>my
>>  >>  loop to build a new one onto his ongoing percussion groove, it 
>still
>>  >>  goes on in his loop and I am not really free to do something 
>totally
>>  >>  different.
>>  >>  When will I have time to care for "electric percussion" 
>instruments...?
>>  >
>>  >Perhaps this could be resolved by adding piezo or ribbon type
>>  >transducers to his
>>  >percussion items instead of using mics?
>>
>>  yes, thats what I am dreaming of for a while. We have been talking
>>  about it before, here. It works with solid instruments, but I dont
>>  have a method to pick up skins yet. Maybe very close miking would be
>>  sufficient? Its amazing what Marcus Suzano and others do with the
>>  Pandeiro, with a inserted tiny mic!
>
>Luthiers have been using internal condenser mics in guitars for several 
>years.
>Many people believe these sound better then under-the-saddle piezos. 
>I'd bet the
>same type mic could be used inside other instruments as well.
>
>The ribbon transducers might also work, since they don't depend on 
>pressure to
>pick up the sound.
>
>Greg
>
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