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Re: Orvilles to replace EDPs?



Yeah ditto
unfortunately same story
I paid £420 for my edp
street price now is £900
I would buy another if it was still £420
ahh well guess I'll just wait to see if the new distributers don't promote
them and end up flogging them cheap!
Geoff
on 30/3/03 1:51 pm, Eric Williamson at erwill@suitandtieguy.com wrote:

> Quoting "JAMES FOWLER, III" <jimfowler@prodigy.net>:
>> i would stick with your edps for looping...you're
>> gonna have a hard time beating the flexibility of the
>> unit within the idiom.  plus, a pair of
>> orvilles...that's nearly 10 grand!!!
> 
> no, he wouldn't need a pair. he'd just need one. Mr Redenbacher has 2 
>seperate
> DSP units in it, each capable of looping and processing. there is no way 
>to do
> feedback between the two blocks unfortunately (well, not in stereo).
> 
> i think that the DSP7500 may be more appropriate for looping/processing, 
>as it
> is much cheaper (3 grand).
> 
> 3 grand for eventide vs 3 grand for stereo exoplechen and
> harmoniser/pcm/whatever unit.
> 
> it's kind of a wash when you look at it that way.
> 
> i prefer separate units for different signal processes but i'm not 
>decided on
> my next looping solution.
> 
> if you NEVER use multiply, reverse, undo whatnot it could work great. if 
>you
> rely on them it wouldn't. i'm sure Italo can pipe in with an explanation 
>of
> how 
> to do multiply (possibly reverse, i don't know if the reverse delay 
>module can
> use the full sampler memory like the LongDelay module can). i see no way 
>you
> could do Undo effectively though.
> 
> i never use undo, never store my loops, and rarely use multiply. i don't 
>know
> what i'm going to do. the Expensive Expansive Gibson Looper is the BEST 
>USER
> INTERFACE DESIGN FOR A REALTIME LOOP/DELAY but i think that it's 
>overpriced
> for 
> 2003. when i first looked into getting an EDP for myself back in 1996, 
>the
> price that the local music store gave me was 390 bucks. when i finally 
>got the
> money together to order one it had risen to 580. it is now TWICE what i 
>was
> originally quoted. that is not following inflation.
> 
> i remember an email exchange i had with a nice man who works at Trace 
>Elliot.
> he told me the reason the price was so ridiculous for the EDP was that 
>because
> the design dates to 1992, many of the components are NLA or very 
>expensive.
> most other manufacturers would find a more cost-effective way to build 
>more
> units, as continuing to support hardware which uses unobtanium 
>components is
> not taking the long term into healthy consideration.
> 
> he said he was trying to get the price down by buying components en 
>masse,
> which would lower their per-unit parts cost. what happens when you run 
>out of
> those parts? you've bought all you can find. the law of supply and 
>demand (and
> the nature of business: if you can sell it for that price, don't lower 
>the
> price) say that the price of the EDP will continue to stay high or even 
>rise
> higher!
> 
> eventually it will become more cost-effective to buy an Eventide for 
>looping.
> 
> why doesn't Eventide licence the LOOPIV software for a module inside the
> Orville/DSP series? i think there are alot of people who would scrape 
>together
> 3 grand to buy a 24/96 LoopDelay with premium effects processing built 
>in.
> they 
> can scrape together 1700 (including 2 Aurisis ROMs) for a stereo 
>echoplex ...
> 
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
> 
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