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 i think i saw jesse ray nailing a doobie behind the 
sip and park! he had a large hat on so im not total sure. no wait the kid also 
had a 4 string zon! i did see jesse chewing tobaco once though.  
  
jg 
  
  
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:16 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: why pot before 
looping? 
  
  Only drug users defend using drugs. All drugs are a 
  cop-out. It may take one years  to figure it out, but I have never watched 
  a drug user who continues to use drugs do anything with his/her life. I 
  have only watched countless, and I mean countless,  musicians who spent 
  (and still spend) all of their energy buying kine bud, getting high 
  morning, noon, and night, forget gig dates, forget phonenumbers, forget 
  key changes, forget their ass, hook the outputs out of the inputs, forget 
  how to route a  VST wrapper, play their basses drenched in reverb and 
  delays thinking it sounds cool, stop after setting up a TON of equipment to 
  go get stoned and come back and 'noid out in front of their gear, choke 
  when speaking to the audience...the list goes on. All of my former band 
  members use(d) pot in excess and will defend it more loquaciously than 
  anything I have read here are still only successes in their own personal 
  hall of fame. As a matter of fact, my former drummer has a 
  horrendous smokers hack and he aint smokin' cigarettes. All pot users will 
  voice their opinions in favor of pot exactly like the denizens of the Isle 
  of the Lotos Eaters. It's the same predictable, self-serving, stoner 
  bullshit that I have heard for years. I'm through writing about pot. It's a 
  trap. Give it up if you use it and rejoin your human mind. The psychedelic 
  thing is really something else. Psylocibin fungus on your neurons. Big 
  deal. So you join the fungus phylum for a while and realize "wow, this is a 
  planet." Yep. It's a planet. Okay, now what?  Cocaine? Pure craziness and a 
  capitalists wet dream. Heroin. More madness. LSD? Okay, so 
  maybe--maybe--if you're lucky, you get some real LSD and pitch a no-hitter. 
  So what. It isn't you. It is you on the drug. Once is cool, but like 
  anything, you get hooked and can't perform without it and you are a great 
  big fake. 
  Musicians who can only perform high: Any repeated 
  behavior results ina  refined performance. So if you are a musician 
   who repeats behaviors while stoned, then you will learn and only be able 
  to reliably replicate these behaviors while stoned. It is a trap that the 
  body has created for  itself. The only way out is to quit and relearn. 
  That's it. Disagree all you want, but it's all in order to vehemently defend a 
  crutch. Recreational drug use is for cheaters.  Now, I highly doubt 
  anyone reading this is a shaman or some other bonafide mystic,  otherwise 
  you'd not be bothering with internets and mailing lists and 
  musical equipment, but rather be preparing a medicine bag with animal bones 
  or divining water with a stick or whatever a true shaman does. I believe 
  that the sacred substances of this planet belong to them and to them alone. 
  All these kids driving around in  Mustangs, smoking pot, going to class and 
  staring vacant eyed at me (yes, I'm a  teacher and I see firsthand just how 
  fucked up people are who use drugs, how self-deluded and seduced by their 
  peer structure and support system and the whole hunter/gathering routine) 
  are plugging up the psychic ether for the rest of earnest people who would 
  rather meditate and get to know the wonders of the universe without a 
  barrage of confusion and sloppy intention. They can't retain and can't 
  learn. I have not had one kid who supported pot do better than ones who do 
  not. Period. The pot users always give themselves away, at least in my 
  classes. It is so easy to manipulate a discussion in order to discover who 
  favors pot. It's hilarious. And the ones who obviously have never seen it or 
  are still so innocent that they haven't tried simply do naturally better at 
  everything: their memory works, they are present, on time, alert, etc.  I'm 
  through. I can't convince anyone to stop. All I can say is there is 
  no valid rationalization an active drug user can offer in defense of his or 
  her self- destructive, mind-altering blackhole of a habit. None. John 
  Lilly, Terrence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Norman Mailer, Poe, Hunter S., that 
  freak Crowley, or the countelss musicians who have used drugs could have 
  done so much more without. The body degenerates all by itself. A few doors 
  opened by drug use is fine. Sustained and persistent use is a trap. I am 
  telling you, read Isle... 
  Now those who have bothered to read this 
  entire message will hopefully discern a  distinction between active, 
  defensive drug users and those who have dived deep  into the thickest of 
  it, seen far-out (man) and wildly neurotic/exotic places and have come back 
  only to realize..."fuck...that was cool but it can't last." Because, my 
   good brothers, one has to come to realize that any drug dependency is a 
  trap. Dependency is a trap. The best kind, perhaps...but a trap 
  nonetheless. Amen.  
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