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Subject: Re: midi note??? loop changes on Repeater? Very weird HELP!!!!



CONGRATULATIONS--This is the first time I've seen a
tech. question go unanswered on this list.  You seem
to have stumped LD!  I was unable to view your diagram
for some reason--so this may not directly apply to
your situation--but I have have encountered a similar
symptom with the Repeater and have intended to
document it here ...hopefully you will find this
useful.

I use an FCB-1010 to control the Repeater.  This pdl
brd has a MIDI merge feature that I used to use to
merge MIDI time code (from a Roland R-70) and the FCB
commands to the MIDI in of the Repeater.

Repeater = MIDI ch. 1
R-70 = MIDI ch. 10  (it can also transmit on 4 other
channels simultaneously)

This worked ok for the most part--HOWEVER--I
discovered that if I used the R-70's Multi-timbral
capabilties--the symptoms you describe raise their
ugly head--random loops are cued--there was no
pattern--nor could this symptom be duplicated in any
predictable fashion (yes--I made certian that the drum
machine was not transmitting on the Repeater's MIDI
ch.).  I had the same result with other mulit-timbral
drum machines (Boss DR-5 and DR-770)  As long as I
transmitted only on one MIDI channel, everything was
fine--but let more that one channel transmit and chaos
would eventually ensue.

At first I attributed this to one of the several bugs
with which most Repeater users live.  Then as an
experiment, I used an external MIDI merge box as
opposed to merging with the FCB (I use a simple MIDI
Solutions 2 in/1 out box).  This solved the problem
entirely!  In fact--the Repeater has been a MUCH more
stable machine ever since.

Hopefully, this will info will prove useful to
someone...

After gaining alot of useful info here and on the LD
site--thanks for providing the opportunity to
contribute.

Cheers,

Rob Michael


"Play something good...."


> After re-cabling my setup for a NEW-IMPROVED system,
(But addmittedly 
> rather complex arrangement that may or may-not have
a midi loop in 
> it..explanation follows). I have a VERY WEIRD
phenomena. The "loop 
> select" changes as I play guitar (GR30 guitar
synth)... So there I am 
> making a groovy loop and suddenly I notice the
display change loops to 
> seemingly random loops. They dont actually play,
just cue them up.
> Now this midi routing DOES mean that the midi out
from the Guitar 
> synth is getting to the repeater, but how can it
change loops just by 
> playing the guitar??? I would understand if I was
changing patches on 
> the synth but NOT NOTES!!!
>  
> OK I know none of you midi geniui can help without
further in depth 
> info so i have made a diagram of my rig at
>  
> www.mark-red.com/midi_setup.swf
<http://www.mark-red.com/midi_setup.swf>
>  
> its not as complicated as it looks,
> It is basically a Electrix heavy looping rig
(repeater/filter 
> factory/mofx)
> almost seperated from...
> a roland GR30 guitar synth midi'ed up to a Korg
MS2000 rack synth 
> (THRU a Boss drummachine). There is a kinda loop
here (if you see the 
> diagram) because I want the drummachine to send
clock to BOTH the 
> git-synth AND the Korg synth (for both their
in-built arpegiators). 
> however I am ALSO using the midi note from the git
synth to drive the 
> korg... I KNOW I KNOW I could have
Drummachine>GR30>Korg synth ... but 
> the korg doesnt seem to GET the clock-outa the
GR30... Cant find soft 
> midi thru on it...
> HOWEVER... (sorry this is getting obtuse) IT DOES
WORK...  the 
> electrix rack synchs nicely to the drummachine and
the git synth plays 
> at same speed and so does the Korg... luverly
jubbly... BUT THE 
> F***ING LOOP NUMBERS CHANGE ON THE
REPEATER!!!!!!!!!!
>  
> Anyone enjoy a challenge, spot the problem...
>  
> Please you guys, I know you're the BEST
>  
> Mark Red
>  
>  
> ...............................
> m  a  r  k        r  e  d
> www.mark-red.com <http://www.mark-red.com>
> ...............................
>   

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