Drummers & Sych. Tempo w/loop -- WAS Re: Akai Heardush, (band looping, sit or stand, etc.)

["David" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>]

Bill you're point about "being in motion" and grrrrroooving helping to make
accurately timed button presses is spot on.

With regard to drummers and fills I'd say actually, 99% of the drummers I
know have had to work very to:

1) ensure their fills don't get ahead of the beat -- seems fills can be
somewhat destabilizing for a myriad of reasons; and
2) just stop "filling" in the "change-space" so other players can make a
move.

Of course there are devices now you can get equipment with "beat detecting"
features to synch the midi up with the drummer which I'm guessing is a more
socially desirable was to go. :-)

I'm not certain, but I think the Electrix Repeater has this feature.

Has anyone on this list used "beat detection" on the Repeater and can let 
us
know how well it works??

Thanks
David


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Fox" <billfox@fast.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Akai Heardush, (band looping, sit or stand, etc.)


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jesse Ray Lucas" <jlucas@neoprimitive.net>
> > I find it easier to hit time sensitive buttons when I am standing.  If
the
> > music is groovy then I am bouncing along with it, and the button 
>presses
are
> > just an extension of that bounce.
>
> Exactly!  Here's my take:  If you start moving your foot to press a
pedal's
> button on a beat, you're already too late.  If your foot is in motion
before the
> beat and you're aiming to hit the floor beneath the pedal when the beat
arrives,
> your button press will be much more accurate.  The drummer must have
excellent
> monitoring of the looping device(s) and be willing to follow it's tempo
instead
> of lead.  (The drummer's fills are still required to lead the band 
>through
a
> song's changes.  But that's not a tempo issue.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>
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