has anyone else noticed that the Behringer Bass V-Amp has an Echo Pro-style "loop sampler" in it? it's only like 15 1/2 seconds, but it does have half-speed and reverse. it also has a simple DSP synth that tracks the input. no you cannot use both at the same time. wild. i might just have to look into that. --- Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com