Re: Dual Echo Pros for Stereo Looping, First Impressions...

[Mech <mech@m3ch.net>]

At 05:34 PM 7/22/2004, msottilaro wrote:

>I wouldn't call them stereo though as that really denotes a dual channel 
>that is perfectly synced.  Fun none the less though.

Fair enough; I can see your viewpoint, if that's the criteria by which 
you're measuring.  However, I think you might run into more contradictions 
with that definition than you think if you really look closely at the DSP 
functions inside some of the "stereo" effects we routinely use.  Heck, you 
could even make the case on your home stereo, for instance, that having an 
extra wad of cable attached to your left speaker would add enough latency 
on one channel to strictly go afoul that definition.

Still, I see the point.  My original mission here was to preserve the 
stereo spread as best as possible from the synth into the looper, using 
the 
equipment at hand.  The Echo Pro itself makes a complete hash of that one 
aspect, but does sound good otherwise.  So how can we play to its 
strengths 
and minimize its weaknesses?  This was the best way I could think of to do 
so.

Now that I think of it, it probably would've been relevant to add a 
section 
on reproduction of the stereo imaging going in and coming out (hrm, prolly 
need to pick up an oscilloscope for that one).  However, we know that the 
stereo image is going to change just because of the lack of 
sync.  Regardless, if one is eyeballing it (erm, earballing?) through a 
pair of headphones, the stereo image of the loop before degradation is 
pretty darn close to the stereo image coming out of the original synth.

>I've also had a lot of fun taking a stereo loop in the repeater and 
>turning it into a dual mono loop and using the "slip" function to move 
>them in and out of sync.  Lots and lots of possibilities there.

Oh yeah.  Dunno how well I stated it in the intro, but by no means am I 
putting up this EP config as a replacement for the Repeater.  I stated 
previously that this is my secondary looper, which runs async into the 
Repeater.  Still, just because it's the secondary looper, that's no excuse 
for it to sound like crap (i.e. mono).

         --m.