I was searching the web for more info on the echoplex chameleon port, and I came across _another_ looper that's in development for the chameleon. It's called "live looper" and according to the blurb on http://www.soundart-hot.com/english/developers8.htm it's partially funded by the French government. Not sure what that means, but I think it's pretty interesting that there may be two choices of loopers for the chameleon. -- Art Simon http://art.simon.tripod.com http://artsimon.iuma.com