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Re: EH 16-sec reissue - worth getting...?

I think it's a pretty good little box... I don't have
the issues  you guys did as I sync to a midi clock
with some sort of sequence going on anyway.  I ended
up selling mine because I wasn't using it but I
thought it was a nice little looper that did some
pretty cool stuff.


--- stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote:

> what he said.
> stanthemaninsanfran(longtime abuser of the ORIGINAL
> <EH16secddl>)
> > The new EH16 can do that in spades. It's forte is
> messing with loops in
> > realtime shifting pitch, time, basically
> decontructing things and messing
> > with the original loop mangling it beyond
> recognition.
> > 
> > My beef (which has been covered before) is you are
> a slave to the pedal in
> > timing. The pedal requires you to set a specific
> length and then play the
> > loop starting and stopping accorind to the
> setting. You cannot simply
> > <step on> and start the loop and the <step on> and
> stop it. This is not
> > only non intuitive but has made the pedal
> excruciating for me to use. To
> > "help" you know when to start stop your playing
> there is a series of tiny
> > blinking lights and an inaudible "click" that
> doesn't even have a
> > separate out (like in the original) so you at
> least run that to
> > headphones or a mixer and make it usable.
> > 
> > I almost regret buying it at this point. It
> certainly is NOT essential by
> > any means. It's only salvation that I can se if
> using it via midi and
> > having a drum machine be the click track so you
> can at leave HEAR that. It
> > still is ass backwards making the player slave to
> the tool rather than
> > allowing one to freely play and catch what you
> want on the fly. Truly an
> > idiotic move on the part of EH IMO.
> > 
> > I do enjoying having it run amok as a delay and
> creating freaknoise but
> > there are cheaper delays that are much more
> friendly. As a looper it's
> > failed for me and I still use my simple DL4 which
> easily does loop,
> > reverse, and 1/2 time and lets me PLAY and create.
> > 
> > I'm sure others have different opinions and with
> some practice you might
> > get used to it's ways. The timing thing is such a
> deal breaker for me I
> > just want to warn any other improve and free form
> artists to seriously
> > consider and try it out in person first. I bought
> into the hype and
> > marketing (plus I had been wanting one for 20
> years) and the bottom line
> > is this is NOT a reissue at all but a very new
> product that does different
> > things. YMMV.