Re: One (possibly) Redeeming Quality of Solo Looping (wasImprovisation Ears)

["David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>]

I see what you're saying, and I agree in so far as I understand what you're
pointing at.

However, to your three gestures, I'd like to add a fourth -- a non-moving 
or
very slow moving gesture.  Moving slowly, the listener need not focus on it
too.  The hard thing is finding a person who is good at sitting in that
space in an improv.

Of course, really this is all just playing with ideas. :-)   It's the music
comes that out we care about most.

David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Hartnett" <travishartnett@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: One (possibly) Redeeming Quality of Solo Looping (was
Improvisation Ears)


> I'm with Per on this one.
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:09:57 +0100, Per Boysen <per@boysen.se> wrote:
> > On Feb 27, 2005, at 22:29, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > I like to think about human perception of music as "gestures". No
> > matter the amount of instruments, musicians or looping effect boxes
> > involved - my favorite number of "gestures" is three! In music I like
> > to listen to and play there is optimally three simultaneous gestures
> > going on at the same time. On such gesture can be made up by
> > tremendously complex details of sound, but I don't listen to the
> > complexity at all when improvising. I listen to the gesture and let it
> > accompany my own gestures.
> >
> > This gives that the perfect group for playing free improvisation is
> > three musicians. When you are part of  an improvising trio you can
> > pretty much play things that differs from what the other play and it
> > will still come out as meaningful music. As soon as there are more
> > musicians you have to start looking for gestures in music that is not
> > "the noise created by a singular musicians", i.e. musicians have to
> > form cells within the group sound and such a cell should harness the
> > same gesture.
> >
>