Re: Devil's AdvocateRE: Dear RED STATES

["Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>]

No, not too calm, Adrian: I'm just a really intense, neurotic,
anxiety-prone guy TRYING to be a calm person. But not *actually* calm.
There is a difference ;-)
Yours in Waiting Rooms,
Tim


> [Original Message]
> From: Adrian Bartholomew <adrian@bartholomusic.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: 9/13/2005 12:27:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Devil's AdvocateRE: Dear  RED STATES
>
> maybe ur too calm
> ___
> Adrian Bartholomew
> Leawood KS
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
>
> >  
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: Adrian Bartholomew
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2005 20:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Devil's AdvocateRE: Dear RED STATES
> >
> >
> > ___
> > Adrian Bartholomew
> > Leawood KS
> > On Sep 12, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: "Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2005 17:23 PM
> > Subject: Devil's AdvocateRE: Dear RED STATES
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds good, but I'd miss ZZ Top, I'd miss Moon Pies, and besides, 
> > I've got
> > a whole passel of red-state relatives who think Dubya is just great.
> > I'm not sure that re-starting the Civil War is the answer.
> > Let's try to understand Bush supporters-- aside from a few cynical
> > plutocrats, most Bush supporters are basically good-hearted folks 
> > (like my
> > Mom) who were raised in very socially conservative households and would
> > vote for a bag of popcorn if it ran on a ProLife platform. Anything 
> > that
> > even vaguely smells of hippiedom is anathema to them.
> >
> > Not really. I'm a Republican but somehow not a raving fundamentalist 
> > drone.
> > Whoops, that one doesn't work. Neither does the line being 
> > continuously fed
> > through the media about the 2000 and 2004 elections somehow causing a
> > permanent divide in our country. Somehow it only seems to exist in the
> > minds of people who can't um, 'move on'.
> >
> > so do u blame the folks who get married and then divorced. the 66% of 
> > them? and growing? or do u investigate what the institution itself 
> > means in this day and this age?
> > do u question the folks who cant drive properly and who misuse a car 
> > out of lack of "car" knowledge or do u recall the car as not fit for 
> > the society that drives it?
> >
> > ...cant "move on"????
> > Take your meds and calm down.
> >
> >
> > They would help you if they found you lying in the middle of the road. 
> > Your
> > wallet would be safe. They work hard for their families, and they're so
> > busy working their butts off making a living that they really don't 
> > have
> > time to read the news. THAT'S KEY.
> > And honestly, they've been underwhelmed by the Democrats' 
> > less-than-awesome
> > marketing of less-than-inspiring candidates who kinda lacked charisma,
> > whereas Dubya has this aura that makes ya think he wants to be your
> > drinkin' buddy. It's a gift that not everybody has.
> > Look at Gore. He was a Southerner, a VietNam vet, a sportsman, a 
> > genuine
> > bubba, and still the Red States would have none of it. The fact that 
> > they
> > chose Captain AWOL over Gore points to feeble Democratic campaigning 
> > and,
> > possibly, Al's stiff public persona.
> > Even when you have a good product, ya gotta sell, sell, sell. Ditto for
> > Kerry. A good guy, but you can't afford to shoot yourself in the foot 
> > when
> > you are up against the GOP, the best salesmen the world has ever seen. 
> > And
> > Kerry did shoot himself in the foot more than a few times.
> > The Red Staters had reasons to vote for Dub. We may not be able to 
> > fully
> > comprehend those reasons, but WE CANNOT write these people off as 
> > HeeHaw
> > goofballs and inbred haters. You will not win over anybody if you 
> > insult
> > them, contrary to what Howard Dean thinks. Resist the urge. Reach out. 
> > Try
> > to find some common ground.
> > Sonic Luv,
> > Tim Mungenast
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Luis Angulo <labalou2000@yahoo.com>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Date: 9/12/2005 4:34:22 AM
> > Subject: Dear RED STATES
> >
> > This sounds great if you dont mind i am coming with
> > you;-!
> >
> > > Dear Red States...
> > >
> > > We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our
> > > own country, and we're
> > > taking just the Blue States with us.
> > >
> > > In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii,
> > > California, Oregon,
> > > Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois
> > > and all the Northeast.
> > > We believe this split will be beneficial to the
> > > nation, and especially to
> > > the people of the new country.
> > >
> > > To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all
> > > the slave states. We get
> > > stem cell research and the best beaches. We get
> > > Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken
> > > Lay.
> > >
> > > We get the Statue of Liberty. We get Hollywood and
> > > Yosemite... You get
> > > Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get
> > > WorldCom and Enron. We get
> > > Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of
> > > America's venture capital
> > > and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get
> > > two-thirds of the tax revenue,
> > > you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
> > >
> > > Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower
> > > than the Christian
> > > Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You
> > > get a bunch of single
> > > moms.
> > >
> > > Please be aware that the new country will be
> > > pro-choice and anti-war, and
> > > we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq
> > > at once. If you need
> > > people to fight, ask your politicians and
> > > evangelicals. They have kids
> > > they're apparently willing to send to their deaths
> > > for no purpose, and they
> > > don't care if you don't show pictures of their
> > > children's caskets coming
> > > home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that
> > > the WMDs turn up, but
> > > we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's
> > > Quagmire.
> > >
> > > With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm
> > > control of 80 percent of the
> > > country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the
> > > pineapple and lettuce, 92
> > > percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of
> > > America's quality wines
> > > (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90
> > > percent of all cheese, 90
> > > percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S.
> > > low-sulfur coal, all
> > > living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy
> > > and Seven Sister schools,
> > > plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
> > >
> > > With the Red States, on the other hand, you will
> > > have to cope with 88
> > > percent of all obese Americans (and their projected
> > > health care costs), 92
> > > percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent
> > > of the tornadoes, 90
> > > percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all
> > > Southern Baptists, virtually
> > > 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh,
> > > Bob Jones University,
> > > Clemson and the University of Georgia.
> > >
> > > Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states
> > > believe Jonah was
> > > actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe
> > > life is sacred unless
> > > we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44
> > > percent say that
> > > evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam
> > > was involved in 9/11, and
> > > 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are
> > > people with high morals.
> > >
> >
> >
> > www.luis-angulo.com
> >
> >
> >
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