>>>,now >>>i want to find a little (non synth) effect that will >>>turn my guitar into a bass,what do u use? I recently tested that one in a shop: http://filters.muziq.be/model/ebs/octabass it really works when you play several strings Good old Paradis Polysubbass is now made as a SMD PCB (and called PolyBass). It easily fits into a guitar, so once you have single string pickups, that might be the best solution! I will put up a picture the next days... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org