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Re: looperlative control



Addendum: A training DVD, in place of a paper-based manual, would be a 
great
selling tool.  And clips posted to a website would help people see what is
possible - and how to do it.

If there were online video-clips showing what could be done with the EDP,
I'm very sure sales of that device would be 30% higher (at least!).

David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: looperlative control


> One more thing on a related note....
>
> Enough (and that is an arguable and subjective quantity, to be sure) of
the
> Looperlative's capabilities *must* be immediately usable/available so the
> buyer can get a feel for what is possible.
>
> If the capabilities in the Looperlative are only really accessible after
> programming a midi footpedal, that makes it very hard to try-out or
evaluate
> in a store.  It this happens, then the best sales tool you have is the
Users
> Manual, which for the potential buyer becomes the only way to know what 
>is
> possible.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: looperlative control
>
>
> > Cool.  We disagree.  You like mucking about in midi.  I don't.
> >
> > I disagree that "excellence" in footpedal design would be required.
> >
> > An EDP style footpedal (Record, Overdub...) with one more button to
switch
> > "Loop Tracks" would widen the market for a Looperlative rackmount 
>device
a
> > lot.
> >
> > The alternative is to require the purchase and programming of a
> > midi-footpedal so you can start and stop "Record" with your feet
(because
> > your hands are busy on an instrument or because your rack is 15 feet
> away).
> > That right there will severely limit the market for this cool new tool.
> >
> > That stated, I assume there will be no footpedal for the Looperlative.
> And
> > we can argue till the cows come home how much of a market is cut-off by
> > requiring the purchase and programming of a midi footpedal for the
> > Looperlative.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: looperlative control
> >
> >
> > I don't agree at all.   MIDI footpedals are cheap and plentiful -- you
> > can just get one and plug it in the back.  Excellence at looper design
> > doesn't imply excellence at footpedal design... I'd rather the time
> > was spent improving the looperlative rather than designing Yet Another
> > Footpedal.
> >
> > On 12/31/05, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Steve - Thanks for your answer.  I'm a non-midi person.  I don't use
> > > laptops.  My selfish desire is to have a EDP style footpedal (Record,
> > > Overdub...) with one more button to switch "Loop Tracks."  That would
> get
> > me
> > > a lot - perhaps more than I can imagine fully using right there.
> > >
> > > And I would very humbly suggest that such a non-midi footpedal would
> open
> > > the Looperlative up to a much larger marketplace of buyers.  :-)
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk>
> > > To: "Loop List" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:57 PM
> > > Subject: looperlative control
> > >
> > >
> > > > >>>So - if I'm understanding the implications of this posting, the
> > > > Looperlative
> > > > requires a Midi interface / footpedal to operate its functions.
But,
> > > > does
> > > > that mean no functions are controllable without midi?<<<
> > > >
> > > > have a look at www.looperlative.com - the picture there shows the
> > > > front panel, which has button control for rec/overdub, play/stop 
>and
> > > > then four user programmable buttons to whatever functions you want
to
> > > > have on them. I have mine set to 'stop now' (the play/stop button 
>is
> > > > quantised to the end of the loop), 'erase', 'all stop' and, er,
> > > > something else I can't remember...
> > > >
> > > > you can also access all the possible operations on any one track 
>via
> > > > the buttons and dial (at the moment I'm doing all my feedback
control
> > > > via the buttons and dial), and same with all the global functions
> > > > (overall volume, play all, stop all, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > But in case it's what you were asking, there are no other ways to
> > > > connect controllers at the moment than via the MIDI port - though I
> > > > guess it could be possible for Bob to write some kind of ethernet
> > > > thingie into the controller features at some point so you could rig
> > > > something up via your PC.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > > www.stevelawson.net - site
> > > > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop
> > > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >      /t
> >
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> >
>