Re: Audio Interface for Notebook Users

[Doug Cox <dougcox@pdq.net>]

On my Thinkpad T40, the Indigo does not disable the internal soundcard.  
You can use both (assuming your audio application allows it).

Kris Hartung wrote:

> Got it. This answers my question. The 410, then, has two mono inputs, 
> which is what I need and no more for the time being.
>
> A question for those who use the Indigo IO....does it disable your 
> current soundcard? Or can you still use both at different times?
>
> Kris
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kaiser" 
> <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Audio Interface for Notebook Users
>
>
> Well, now you've got me. I hooked it up for what I need, and haven't
> explored all the possibilities. When I use it with max/msp, I use one
> input, and then create the output routings in max. You can make the
> ins/outs go wherever you want in the max environment....  So to answer
> your question regarding the routing: If you are using max/msp: yes, you
> can do whatever you want very easily! (Sorry, just had to make a plug
> for max)
>
> :-)
>
> Let's see, I've just opened the software for the 1814 (I don't have a
> 410 here, but I think they are very similar in the software they use.)
>
> Regarding inputs: Yes, 1/2 and 3/4 can each be linked as stereo, or
> left as independent.
>
> And yes, they can be assigned to outputs as stereo pairs. Each one has
> an independent assign button to go to outputs 1/2 or 3/4.
>
> In my Mac, it looks like one device...but I would think there is a way
> to route 3/4 via software in the way you needed. I just don't know how.
>
> Jeff
>
> BTW, great idea...to route it to a live web stream....
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Kaiser
> http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com
> pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com
> On Mar 19, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kris Hartung wrote:
>
>> Jeff, are the 2 inputs stereo or mono (2X8)? Also, does software read 
>> each input as a separate device? It would be great to be able to take 
>> input from my guitar, process it, spit it back out, but also take 
>> input from the mixer's output and stream to the web.
>>
>> Kris
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kaiser" 
>> <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: Audio Interface for Notebook Users
>>
>>
>> It is more than you need, as far as ins/outs.....but it is nice to have
>> them available for whatever might come your way. Plusses: Firewire
>> powered, compact, and they hit the street for a little less than
>> $300...jeez, you'd think I work for these guys (I don't).....
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Kaiser
>> http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com
>> pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com
>> On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Kris Hartung wrote:
>>
>>> Looks good...comes with Live too.
>>>
>>> Kris
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kaiser" 
>>> <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com>
>>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Audio Interface for Notebook Users
>>>
>>>
>>> Try the M-Audio 410.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Kaiser
>>> http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com
>>> pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com
>>> On Mar 19, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Kris Hartung wrote:
>>>
>>>> Holy moly...talk about a response! Let me see if I can summarize:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Echo IO 
>>>>  http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/CardBus/IndigoIO/index.php - $200
>>>> 2. Echo DJ - 
>>>> http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/CardBus/IndigoDJ/index.php - $200
>>>> 3. MOTU Traveler - http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/traveler/ 
>>>> - $849
>>>> 4. MOTU Ultralite -  
>>>> http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/ultralite/ - $549
>>>> 5. MOTU 828 MKII - http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/828/ - $749
>>>> 6. M-Audio 1814 - 
>>>> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FireWire1814-main.html - $499
>>>> 7. M-Audio Mobilepre USB - 
>>>> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MobilePreUSB-main.html - $149
>>>> 8. Metric Halo Mobile I/O ULN-2 - 
>>>> http://www.mhlabs.com/metric_halo/products/mio/uln2/ - $1075
>>>> 9. Edirol FA-101 Firewire interface - 
>>>> http://www.audioamigo.com/edifa101.html - $500
>>>> 10. Edirol UA-5 (USB 1.1) - 
>>>> http://www.edirol.net/products/en/UA-5/index.html - $300
>>>> 11. SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook - 
>>>> http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp? 
>>>> category=1&subcategory=204&product=10769 - $100
>>>>
>>>> Most of these are totally overkill for me...there's no flippin' 
>>>> way  I'm spending $500-800 on an audio interface, but given the 
>>>> number of inputes these more expensive units have and what they can 
>>>> do, the  price does seem right.
>>>>
>>>> Now, for my user requirements:
>>>>
>>>> - 1 stereo ouput, 1 stereo input, 1 mic input (optional)
>>>> - Small and portable (no rack mount units), the size of a sandwich 
>>>> preferrably
>>>> - USB, Firewire, or PCMCIA (PCMCIA is best, IF AND ONLY IF it does 
>>>> not disable my laptop's soundcard...my Audigy 2 ZS does, which I do 
>>>> not like)
>>>> - $300 or less
>>>>
>>>> Given this, the Echos look good, as do the M-AudioMobilepre and 
>>>> Edirol UA-5.
>>>>
>>>> Kris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>