Re: power is nothing without control (was Re: Filter-Looper Swapping)

[Jeff Kaiser <loopersdelight@pfmentum.com>]

RE: Looping: I have no idea what "multiply" is, but everything else and 
more....yes. I will show you in Boise. We can hang with Rick Walker and 
go over this stuff. I am currently using a looper that is set-up a 
little differently, maybe I will have my new one ready by then....

The VST object, as I said, allows you to host VST plugins....you can 
arrange these as you want, BUT the cool thing is to intermix with your 
own manglers/creations. Not being a programmer, I thought I would never 
get into, but I have...it is fun.

BTW, I was privvy to a private demo of hipno stuff with the 
webcam.....very hip stuff! Especially cool after a couple of Choir Boys 
(2 oz grey goose over ice, splash of soda, twist of lime)...frequency 
specific granulation....d00000d....


Jeff Kaiser
http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com
pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com
On Mar 28, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Kris Hartung wrote:

> Hi Jeff - I am a fervant fan of Cycling '74. I have Pluggo, which has 
> some amazing tone mangling and standard VST effects, and I plan to buy 
> Hipno soon, which will allow me to morph my effects and parameters 
> with a wave of my had over a motion sensor webcam.
>
> Now I am intrigued by  Max/MSP.  The routing seems great, and sort of 
> reminds me of what I can do in EnergyXT, my VST host program. Now, 
> what I am more curious about it what type of looping you can do with 
> it. What looping tricks can you do? Can you do things like Multiply, 
> Reverse, half-speed, double-speed, overdub, next loop, etc (sorry for 
> the EDP terminology).
>
> Kris
>
>
> hi luca,
>
> I don't want to be redundant with our private emails: but I thought it
> worth repeating for the list.....This is one of the reasons I went with
> Max/MSP....big time flexibility of routing. Inside the max/MSP
> environment you can freely route/reroute audio paths/controller paths
> all over the place, making it perfect for hybrid rigs of laptop and
> other hardware, or pure software. And so many of the guys onboard
> Cycling 74 (I think all of them) are musicians....at least the ones I
> know personally: Andrew Pask, Gregory Taylor, Ben Nevile.
> best regards,
> Jeff
>
>
>
> Jeff Kaiser
> http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com
> pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com
>
> On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luca Formentini wrote:
>
>> even if I am really surprised by music industry underconsideration 
>> conceirning control capabilities, I have been analyzing audio 
>> converters' internal audio routing/splitting/mixing capabilities for 
>> 2 years now.
>> I use switchblades since many years but, given the growing 
>> availability of digital connections on processing hw and the shift 
>> from just hardware to mixed setups composed by hw and sw, I think 
>> that audio interfaces offer a convenient solution to do this kind of 
>> complex audio spaghetti.
>> The problem resides in the midi implementation offered by their 
>> manufacturers. None of them ( Rme said that officially and Motu by 
>> the mouth of their italian importer) care about making this objects 
>> flexible hearts for evoluted signal routing.
>> The most stupid thing is that they all have what they need, it's just 
>> a matter of control so, like a famous italian commercial says "power 
>> is nothing without control".
>> It's a shame, once again it looks like there are no musicians in the 
>> manifacturers' teams.
>> best,
>> luca
>> www.unguitar.com
>
>