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re: Scary Situations
<< people with little or no experience or little or no talent >>
Sounds like most rappers to me. :)
--
Paul Richards
---- "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Mark Sottilaro wrote about his scary situation:
>
> "What else can you do? WHEN YOUR GUEST
> VOCALIST WON'T LEAVE! "
>
> Man, oh man, have I ever been there before, Mark.
>
>
> At one point I got a really lucrative gig ($1000) at one of the 10,000
> person Massives
> that they used to hold in Oakland (and why did those things stop?)
>
> I was asked to fill two solid hours in the chill room doing my live
>looping
> found sound schtick.
>
> It was fabulous, really. It was a large audience that continually
>turned
> over and people were really digging
> that my stuff was so different from what they normally would hear at a
>Rave.
>
> That was until I did a kind of trip hoppy piece and use beatboxing for
>the
> groove.
>
> A young man walked up to me in the middleof the song as I was juggling
>the
> loops (warning sign already)
> and said. "I dig your beatboxing", I"m a rapper, could I do a
>piece
> with you?
> I thought, well, that's not quite what I intended for the vibe, but I
> didn't want to appear curmugeonly
> so I said okay to his request..
>
> Well, he gets on mic and I lay down a beatbox for him to rap over and
> suddenly and immediately
> there are ten guys in line behind him waiting for their turn on the mic.
>
> I mean this all happened within one minute of me handing him the mic and
> because my hands were literally full
> with playing bass, keys and beatboxign and keeping it all together so
>that
> it sounded like a professional
> production I couldn't control it at all.
>
> At one point I 'ended' a piece and went over to the line of young men
>and
> said, "Thanks a lot, I need to get back to the rest of the show now,"
> and everybody turned on me angrily and one guy said, "Oh man, he got
>his
> turn, I want my turn" to a chorus
> of hostile 'yeahs' from the peanut galler.
>
> It was really pretty ugly quickly and I just gave up and beatboxed until
> the festival leaders aske me to quit playing (half an hour earlier than
>I
> was supposed to). The whole vibe was not 'chill' at all and I was
>never
> asked back (after having played two or three of them very successfully.
>
> Man, oh man, did that make an impression.
>
> I, unfortunately, have experienced similar situations a couple of times
> since then enough to have developed the prejudice that freestyled
>rappers
> are the most aggressive and insensitive musicians that I've ever played
> with. It's a shame because i like the form, and I know a few extremely
> good freestylers but even they do not seem to know when to do their
>thing
> and when to give it a rest. For some reason damned reason, even
>people
> with little or no experience or little or no talent will aggressively
>try to
> get onstage with you. Can you imagine a trumpet player or violinist
>with
> the same amount of experience going up to an accomplished musician and
> aggressively asking to sit in for the DURATION of a performance.
>
> ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
>
> I regretfully have a 'no rapper' policy for my live improv shows. It's
> just not worth the risk.
> I also have discoverd, too, that anyone who is a sensitive and
>accomplished
> musician will seek you out ahead of your show
> and ask to sit in. I've pretty much decided that it has to be David
>Torn
> or David Sylian or Jah Wobble who asks me in the middle of playing for
>me to
> say 'yes' to them. If someone is insensitive enough and pushy
>enough
> to come up right in the middle of a show it's an automatic 'no' reply
>from
> me now....................and I love to improvisize with people, but you
> just gotta have your standards.
>