Re: LP1 Rant warning! (was Re: Looperlative LP1 testers)

["mark t" <aleatoric12@gmail.com>]

If you want to sell your LP1 i'll take it!

On 5/2/06, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
>
> > having followed the LP1 forum for a while, I'm a
> > little bothered with the
> > "throw in your ideas, boys" way of develloping a
> > software.
>
> Boy howdy, Claude!!  At first I thought, "what a great
> idea, go to the people!" and then reality set in.
> People are self absorbed jerks!  I'm a self absorbed
> jerk! I'm shocked that Bob's not gone crazy by this
> point.  I can't wait for the "let's change the logo
> thread!" ;)
>
> I can't help but feel that in some ways, maybe due to
> his design by customer input, that I bought a beta
> product.  The manual is poor (many features are barely
> mentioned, let alone explained, if it wasn't for Steve
> Lawson on the forum I probably would have returned the
> LP-1), it's got outputs that aren't implemented in any
> way and did ship with a fair amount of bugs. (many
> have already been found and fixed) Was a night of my
> life wasted because v 1.1 refered to midi channels as
> 0-15?  Yes it was.  Another gone because the midi
> clock sync didn't work?  Yeah, that too.  Another gone
> because stopped tracks don't restart synced to the
> clock...
>
> Also, because of it's very open yet unfinished form
> I'm one of those frustrated owners.  It's a tweak away
> from being my dream looper. (there's curently no way
> to use the midi tracks as separate loops when synced
> to a midi clock and have them operate like the EDP or
> the Repeater does, toggling betwen them) Judging from
> what I read on the forum you could operate it that
> way.
>
> If this was a product from a company like Roland or
> Digitech, it would have been returned.  Mostly when
> those companies release a product it is what it is.
> I'd have said, "Oh, this product does't operate like I
> want it to.  Bye bye."  But now I have a product that
> *may* change into what I want.  This is kind of odd,
> as rather than digging into if for what it is (a very
> cool multi track looper), I can't help but think of
> what it isn't and might be.  LOOP TEASE!
>
> Will my tweak come?  I don't know.  I've put in
> several requests but never got a "oh that's slated in
> the next release" or "no, that's not doable at this
> time" reply.  The reply was "When it comes to multiple
> tracks, especially when combined with MIDI sync, we
> will need to spend more time defining how you want the
> software to work. The software is still young and I'd
> be happy to make changes to make operate in a useable
> fashion."  How much time?  Do I be patient?  I don't
> develop hardware/software loopers so I have no idea
> what it takes in terms of time to implement features.
> Maybe my request isn't worth Bob's time as I'm one of
> few that even care about this.
>
> As it stands now it's mostly useless to me *but I
> couldn't know that based on prerelease information*
> It's not even in my signal chain.  I know I'm ranting
> (I'm a good ranter, eh?) but $1200 left my bank acount
> on something that's sitting on a shelf.  Do I wait?
> How long?  Bob has been amazing and patient, but part
> of me wishs that a bit more time was spent in initial
> conception before it was released.  If I knew that
> this *is* the way the LP-1 is going to be for a long
> time, I would have passed.
>
> I'm not saying the LP-1 isn't GREAT.  It is a great
> looper.  In some ways it's the best.  If you're not a
> midi clock looper, this may indeed be your box.  If
> you don't care about cuing a new loop to start
> recording at the end of the current loop AND then
> going back and finding the first loop still perfectly
> synced to your drum machine, this may be your looper.
> If you want 8 stereo channels of midi synced (or not)
> loops that don't all have to be the same length, this
> may be your looper.
>
> Of course Bob is on this list so he's probably going
> to read this.  Hi Bob!  Bob, I like you.  I like the
> Looperlative.  I could not have done anything like
> this at all.  I have much respect for your hard work
> and effort.  Your ability to implement all our crazy
> feature requests in a short time has been amazing.
> I'd have told me to fuck off a long time ago.  In a
> sense I wish you would.  Then I could say, "is the
> LP-1 worth owning in it's current form?" and be done
> with it.  Like it is it's an itch in my brain that I
> just can't scratch.
>
> Mark
>
>
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