Re: Looperlative pricing

["Paul" <paulrichard10@adelphia.net>]

With all due respect, it was a joke.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: Looperlative pricing


> Paul Richards wrote:
> "The solution, then, is to turn the technology over to, uh, ZOOM for 
>maybe 
> a cool million bucks, sell them for $599.99 then, mass produce them so 
>we 
> can get the looper elites to shut the hell up.
>
>
> Dear Paul, with all due respect,  you seem to be uninformed about the 
> economics of the looping world.
>
> Zoom would never in a million years, by a product like the Looperlative 
> for a million bucks.   They would lose there asses
> in such a deal because not that many people even buy looping devices.
>
> At one point I made impassioned pleas to the people at Line 6 to put 
>some 
> changes into their cheap floor model , the DL-4.
> They said,  "We sorry to tell you this, but we sell very few units of 
>the 
> DL-4 to people who are specifically using it for looping.
> Our market is for guitarists who use the delay modelling and the looping 
> is thrown in as an added bonus.  We don't sell enough
> to loopers to make it worthwhile adding, say MIDI syncing capabilities."
>
> It was an eye opener to me.     Matthias Grob (inventor of the echoplex) 
> and his partner Kim Flint can tell you about the lack
> of huge profit in selling a highly sophisticated looper.   Bob Amstadt 
>can 
> tell you the same thing.  He's risked a lot of his family's finances
> in an attempt to make this product and is the most non-elitist guy I 
>could 
> ever introduce you to.
>
> ******************
>
> You know something,  if you take any serious 
>musician................after 
> a while,  they realize they want to buy a better axe to go along
> with all their hard work getting better on an instrument.
>
> If you are serious about electric guitars,  you are going to have spend 
> over a thousand dollars, by and large, to get a really good instrument.
> Shit, if you are cellist or an acoustic bassist we are talking $5,000 to 
> $10,000 for a really good instrument.
>
> The looperlative is now, by far and away, the highest fidelity hardware 
> based live looper on the planet right now.
> If you are serious about looping in your artistry, then you have to at 
> least consider it as an option in what you invest in.
>
> Anyone can buy one at list price for a year of payments of 
>$120-125/month.
>
> Try to buy the best drumset in the world for that 
> price....................they'll laugh you out of the music store.
> The same goes for an excellent acoustic guitar or electric.
>
> The fact of the matter is that there are inexpensive instruments (line 6 
> DL-4, boss RC-20) and there are more sophisticated
> and more expensive instruments (the Echoplex and the Looperlative). You 
> can buy software loopers that are fantastic
> for much cheaper, but you have to have a $1500 laptop computer to run 
>them 
> on.
> This is just life.
>
> To derisively tell the so called looper elites to shut the hell up is 
>not 
> only highly disrespectful but it also shows a woeful lack of knowledge 
>on 
> your part.
>
> Please consider your remarks before you blast people on this list. This 
> community is heavily populated by those same people.........some of whom 
> happen to be world class artists without an elitist bone in their bodies.
>
> And please get your facts straight.
>
> signed,
>
> a person who makes very little money, living off his artistry and also 
> plays the cheapest and most expensive loopers on the market,
>
> Rick Walker