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Re: MAX/MSP Conversion Complete...
I love this post.
Absolutely delightful to read. I think the reason you are "now rosy
cheeked and losing weight"....is probably from carrying heavy gear to
gigs? :-)
I think you are off-base in your description of differences, though.
You describe one possibility with max: performance oriented patch. but
you can also do other things....
> Its a head thing... Reactor makes you think of music, whereas Max make
> you think of Concepts.
Musicians can think music or concepts with either package....I'm
thinking of music when patching in max....I know others do it as
well.....
> Max/msp is so much more designed for specific application, as in..
> think up a audio concept that requires some computer magic, and
> construct the tool for the job. This could be processing a string
> quartet by "applying" algorithms based on Moterhead samples for
> quadraphonic playback, or slicing drumloops into 256 pieces where each
> slice is randomly pitched and panned based on the skin resistance of a
> sleeping child.
That is certainly one possibility, and one that I would like to
see/hear!!!! But you can also do other things...like create a vst host
that works like YOU want it to.....
Krispen, chime in here....!
> Reactor, is more for the guy who wants to build a flexible
> environment/tool (read sequencer or processor) that fits his future
> musical plans, and will therefore be more complex and varied, and will
> probably see more use as a personal tool, past the one off performance
> thingy that Max would make...
Reaktor can run inside of max...best of both worlds, if you want them.
My goal with my software instrument was to make a replacement for my
150 plus pounds of pedals and hardware.
Done. In max. Flexible environment/tool created. Easy to upgrade/modify
in the future.
And it does more than those pedals.
I just wish Mobius was ported to mac.....that would be awesome....
> My general impression of both of these packages is that they suck the
> living blood outa you, your skin goes grey, you start to smell of dead
> cells cigerettes and pizza, your friends talk about you when you are
> not there, and you dont talk much to them when they are there...
> evil... dark....and grim....and my personal favorites... audio much
> and synthedit.... are both just slightly less dangerous than heroin.
> Just say NO...
love it! :-)
best,
Jeff
On Sep 30, 2006, at 2:54 AM, markfrancombe.com wrote:
> As someone who has worked quite a bit in both these apps, I can say
> that although there is no difference in the capabilities or the sound
> quality of both, there is a MASSIVE (please imagine font size 72)
> difference in "what one actually DOES with them!"
>
> Max/msp is so much more designed for specific application, as in..
> think up a audio concept that requires some computer magic, and
> construct the tool for the job. This could be processing a string
> quartet by "applying" algorithms based on Moterhead samples for
> quadraphonic playback, or slicing drumloops into 256 pieces where each
> slice is randomly pitched and panned based on the skin resistance of a
> sleeping child.
> WHEREAS:
> Reactor, is more for the guy who wants to build a flexible
> environment/tool (read sequencer or processor) that fits his future
> musical plans, and will therefore be more complex and varied, and will
> probably see more use as a personal tool, past the one off performance
> thingy that Max would make...
>
> Its a head thing... Reactor makes you think of music, whereas Max make
> you think of Concepts. Therefore ones Max patch tends to be minimal
> "experiments" and ones Reactor Patches tend to be
> full-on-floor-stomping-aspirin-chewing-noisy-nighmares...
>
> My general impression of both of these packages is that they suck the
> living blood outa you, your skin goes grey, you start to smell of dead
> cells cigerettes and pizza, your friends talk about you when you are
> not there, and you dont talk much to them when they are there...
> evil... dark....and grim....and my personal favorites... audio much
> and synthedit.... are both just slightly less dangerous than heroin.
> Just say NO...
>
> just mho
>
> mark francombe
> (who uses NO computers in the making of his music... anymore... and is
> now rosy cheeked and losing weight!!! All you augustas/mobius/live
> type people... beware, here speaks the words of truth from a
> recovering addict, now sit down relax and dream of those enigmatic
> metal boxes with flashing lights and real cables... racks... and now
> when you are completely relaxed ask yourself this question, "am I
> using a laptop cos its easier to get to gigs?")
>
>
> marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com he writes for
> www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com
Jeff Kaiser
http://www.JeffKaiser.com
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