I've gone to some trouble to get round this limitation by using a combination of Live and Augustus Loop. See e.g. http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156253 http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48154&highlight= cheers, os. > From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" <tilmann@dehnhard.com> > > there may be a huge difference: > as far as i know ableton (i.e. not the latest version), it is impossible >to > start a loop without defining tempo first. > which means: each of your pieces will start with you synchronising to a >kind > of click track... > tilmann -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/