Re: guitar amps

["Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>]

Yup...your reasoning seems sound. In my case, I have nothing on the floor. 
I 
connect one cable from my guitar to the amp, turn the amp on, and away I 
go. 
I can setup in about 2 minutes or less. Of course, if I were doing a more 
large scale/higher paying gig, I might bring my two Mackie powered 
speakers, 
and just use my laptop. Still nothing on the floor.

K-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: guitar amps


> Oh I hear you, I just always think "well I'm going to
> have to have at least one thing on the floor anyway"
> so why not have it be the source of my tone?  Sure
> it's kind of a controller at the same time too.
>
>
> --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm with you. I could even run my laptop directly
>> into my Mackie 1x10
>> speakers...it's mainly convenience and portability.
>> I have a thing about
>> being able to walk into a jazz gig with nothing buy
>> my guitar and a combo
>> amp. :)   It's ver liberating. The more gear I have
>> to setup for a gig like
>> that, the more disgruntled I get over time.  / K
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: guitar amps
>>
>>
>> >I think we've been over this before, but since you
>> > seem to be happy with many of the modelers around
>> (as
>> > am I) why not just get a nice keyboard amp or
>> powered
>> > PA speaker and use the amp modeler of your choice?
>> > This gives amazing flexibility IMO.  Sounds good
>> for
>> > bass, acoustic and  you can even route keyboard
>> sounds
>> > though it.  Get a modeler that's an all in one
>> floor
>> > unit, as I'm sure you'll need stuff on the ground
>> > anyway.
>> >
>> > I found the Mackie 650s to be a little cold
>> sounding
>> > but had great bottom.  A bit of time with an EQ
>> was
>> > all they needed though.  Why have the bells and
>> > whistles in the amp?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The polytones are indeed nice (just don't use the
>> >> gain on them, as that
>> >> produces what could likely be the most nasty
>> >> sounding distortion on the
>> >> planet earth)...however, having used many models
>> of
>> >> Polytones in my guitar
>> >> playing history, I find that they are a generally
>> a
>> >> one-dimensional amp.
>> >> Most guys I know using them are using good sized
>> >> archtop guitars, which is
>> >> what I did. The polytones are designed to have a
>> >> very flat frequency
>> >> response and re-produce the beautiful, and unique
>> >> sound of a big bodied
>> >> archtop.  This is also why they are a popular amp
>> >> for accordion players. But
>> >> for someone who wants to play modern jazz - a mix
>> of
>> >> traditional clean tones
>> >> with other flavors of dirtied up tones, like Mike
>> >> Stearn, Scofield, etc - I
>> >> don't believe the Polytone is a good choice. It's
>> >> not that sort of amp.  I
>> >> keep falling back to the newer DSP amps, like the
>> >> Roland Cube 60, Fender
>> >> FM65, Vox, and so on. I keep seeing these amps
>> pop
>> >> up in jazz guitar
>> >> discussion forums over, and over again. One just
>> >> found out that one of my
>> >> favorite jazz guitarists, Lorne Lofsky (an
>> >> mind-blowing modern jazz
>> >> guitarist that teaches and lives in the Toronto
>> >> area), is also using the
>> >> Fender FM65.  These amps have the ability to
>> produce
>> >> a very clean tone (like
>> >> a JC-120), but also a vintage amp or tube amp
>> that
>> >> will get dirty when you
>> >> push it.  I never believed it until I use them,
>> but
>> >> amps like the Cube 60
>> >> even have the ability to produce that "spongy"
>> feel
>> >> of tube amps.  I think
>> >> it's just amazing what they've done with
>> them...so,
>> >> for the versatile jazz
>> >> guitarist who has to switch from traditional
>> jazz,
>> >> to smooth jazz, to modern
>> >> jazz, to fusion on the fly depending on the gig,
>> >> these DSP amps are the
>> >> cat's meow.
>> >>
>> >> I find "harshness" to be a feature of EQ, not an
>> >> amp. I've never played an
>> >> amp that I couldn't get a smooth tone out of by
>> >> adjusting the EQ...roll off
>> >> the presence or highs, boost the mids, and turn
>> the
>> >> tone down on the guitar
>> >> a bit....all age old tricks of jazz guitar
>> players
>> >> to "silkify" their tones.
>> >> Although I've heard some tube purists say that
>> solid
>> >> state amps in general
>> >> are harsh...but I think this is an unqualified
>> claim
>> >> as well. Once you tweak
>> >> a solid state amp right, it will NOT sound
>> >> harsh..."harshness" is not the
>> >> right term, in my opition..rather, it's that
>> >> "sponginess" I mentioned, the
>> >> fact that tube amps breaks up when you push them,
>> >> that they change
>> >> throughout the duration of a performance as they
>> >> heat up (which annoys the
>> >> shit out of me), etc.  I think harshness is an
>> easy
>> >> characteristic to
>> >> change, but these more organic features of tube
>> amps
>> >> are more difficult to
>> >> emulate...but the new DSP amps are getting really
>> >> good at it...enough so for
>> >> that I really prefer the DSP amps now, because
>> they
>> >> run cool, don't require
>> >> tube maintenance, and they are light. It's the
>> best
>> >> of all worlds. I don't
>> >> know who a Roland could be regarded as
>> harsh...turn
>> >> the treble and presence
>> >> to 0...the last thing it will be is
>> >> harsh...incredibly undefined, but not
>> >> harsh.
>> >>
>> >> Speaking of Polytone, you ever played a 104? The
>> >> George Benson model? I used
>> >> to one one...weight a tone, but it was a LOUD
>> >> sob....very clean, 2X12 amp. I
>> >> used to own a Lab Series L5 too...very intriguing
>> >> amps, with built in
>> >> compression and some filtering EQ. I used to run
>> a
>> >> L5 one one site, and a
>> >> Polytone 104 on the other for big jazz gigs,
>> where I
>> >> had to compete with an
>> >> 18 piece jazz group or loud drummer.
>> >>
>> >> K-
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "samba -" <sambacomet@hotmail.com>
>> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:55 PM
>> >> Subject: guitar amps
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> >> >
>> >> > I think for small portable the polytone is very
>> >> tatsty.  I find the roland
>> >> > stuff has a sort of harsh edge,where the
>> polytone
>> >> is sweet.No bells and
>> >> > whisltes though.I got one for under 100 and
>> have
>> >> seen 2-3 for 50 that
>> >> > needed repair.It'/s usually switch or power
>> supply
>> >> problems,or maybe a
>> >> > cap.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
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