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RE: Considering building an ultimate looper...
ok, I'll pick a few of the easy things out and get busy
! The hard stuff I leave to Bob ;-)
the smaller and USB-enabled FCB1010 is on its
way.
the small bluetooth LCD : that's a cool idea ! I'll really
look into that. One day. It would immediately solve the request of kkissinger
for a remote tempo LED too.
Oh and... under $300 won't be a problem, once that 1 $ is
worth a few times more then 1 € :-))
I'll tell you exactly what the ultimate looper is. Save you some trouble.
Essentially it would be a stereo (or even surround) Echoplex. All the same
functions.
Rock solid syncing capabilities. No drifting!!
Custom foot controller similer to the FCB1010, except smaller. With 10 or
so built in options of layouts. But also capable of custom layouts.
10 gigs of storage.
Small Bluetooth LCD display screen that can be mounted to a mic stand.
Firewire, or USB connections.
Balanced and Unbalanced outs.
VST interface so the entire unit can be placed into DAW's and be controlled
seamlessly.
1 Rack space
under $300
Free 24 hour support line.
Now, get busy.
MFC
--------------
Original message --------------
From: "GORDIUS info"
<info@gordius.be>
>
> I'd like to add one question to
this :
> What kind of (physical) volume control device do you target,
Bob? Something
> else than a foot pedal?
> I'm asking, because I
am currently testing out a new design for a
> MIDI-controlled foot
pedal. And to me it seems that the "physical range" of
> a standard
foot pedal is no more than 7 bit. I mean : I have trouble making
>
small enough movements to change the control value with 1 single step in the
> 128-value range. Therefore I believe a 10-bit ADC wouldn't make any
sense
> when using a footpedal, but maybe you have another type of
controller in
> mind?
>
> (if you intend to manipulate
the linear footpedal range and make it a
> non-linear transition cur
ve, I would believe you will get much better
> results just using a
7-bit to n-bit lookup table in firmware, rather than
> doing it with
some analog signal manipulation followed by 10-bit AD
> conversion).
>
> Xavier
> http://www.gordius.be
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Larson
[mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com]
> Sent: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 23:35
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re:
Considering building an ultimate looper...
>
> Ok, here's some
friendly advice.
>
> Be careful tossing out words like "ultimate
looper" on this list. So far
> you've described a rather basic looper,
except that you seem to be obsessed
> with the resolution of the output
level control. In all the wish lists and
> product reviews that appear
regularly on this list, this is not a feature
> that I remember being
mentioned.
>
> If you're intending to compete in the hardware
looper market, I would be
> much more concerned about things like
continuous feedback, synchronization
> with external MIDI clocks, pitch
and rate shifting, and "editing" functions
> like insert, multiply,
replace, etc.
>
> Second, the insinuation that the Looperlative
is not "professional level" is
> likely to annoy the many professional
level musicians that use it, as well
> as the professional level
musicians that use other devices and software with
> a MIDI volume
control.
>
> Quick show of hands. Does anyone find that their
musical ambitions are
> being stymied by the resolution of their volume
pedal?
>
> I don't doubt that there are devices that could do a
better job smoothing
> controller changes, or providing a more
musically useful attenuation curve
> at the top end of the range. But
there are software soluti ons to these
> problems that are quite
effective if not perfect.
>
> I don't mean to sound
discouraging, but this strikes me as a rather odd
> feature to be
focusing on. Before you start investing money in this
> venture, be
sure you have a good understanding of the market for hardware
>
loopers.
>
> Jeff
>