This has been mentioned before http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html A great series on improvisational music around the world by Derek Bailey. The first two episodes are especially good. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org