It's funny: I just decided to go back to EDP. I think it's because of something Steve Lawson said, along the lines of "what you are buying is the interface." I still use Live at home, and Reaper as a DAW, and I have Mobius here, but if I am looping live I really just want to plug and go and the EDP gives me everything I need and then some, even without MIDI foot controls. I still, however, really want a good modern latching delay to put in front of it. Come on, Pigtronix. -- http://quotidianme.kellycoyle.net http://organicguitar.kellycoyle.net