I just created a google group named "Looper's Delight Off-Topic" : http://groups.google.com/group/loopers-delight-off-topic/ It's yours to use, now :) And if someone wants to be the admin of this list, just email me and I'll gladly set you up as the admin/owner... </daviD> "Simulating the true sounds and making carefully. Many colours a lot, selected freely by you."