Re: EH 2880 notes

[van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>]

Charles Zwicky wrote:
> Hardly fine here..! There is a special section on that web forum 
> dedicated to the 2880 and those of us who have written volumes and 
> volumes about it on the mailing list are loathe to re-type Mailing lists 
> suck...

Where's the URL to said volumes of info, so I won't have to keep poking?


Anyways, things like this "MIDI implementation allows every parameter" 
is what I'd like to know more about. The 300 ms timing issue as well.

I mailed EH couple days ago about the latest firmware, but so far only 
had an ack mail.

If they want to sell 2880's to loopers, I fail to understand why they 
don't keep firmware revisions ready for download, plus the assotiated 
docs as reference, so we can easily see if it'll work for our intended use.
Surely they know what goes where, else they wouldn't've created such a 
seemingly interesting box.


BTW, this same info is available on the loopingmusic forum, but as fine 
the intentions are with that forum, so far not too many have subscribed, 
meaning I still haven't seen my answers, so I'll loop the 'contempt for 
the court' song in here, unless I get court marshalled ;)


>> Please don't take the discussion away.  It's fine right here.
>>
>> Dave O'H
>> oheareATmagmaDOTca
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Zwicky" 
>> <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: EH 2880 notes
>>
>>>
>>> Can we take this discussion to the loopers forum? It's much better 
>>> format for this discussion...
>>>
>>> http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com
>>>
>>> Here is the topic:
>>>
>>> 
>http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=eh&thread=1195226938
> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I made some comments while close reading the manual.  Comments?
>>>> I'm aware some things may have changed with the firmware mentioned 
>>>> in another thread.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Notes on Electro Harmonix 2880 looper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manual pp 10:
>>>> Feedback control is partly possible. While overdubbing, previous 
>>>> contents can be set to fade out with each loop.
>>>> No direct way of simply activating a 'loop fade-out' function is 
>>>> available, but can maybe be emulated using overdup without actually 
>>>> recording new material.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manual pp 13:
>>>> The designated 2880 Foot Controller provides buttons for:
>>>> New Loop, Record, Play, Track Select, Reverse, Octave
>>>> Most buttons and faders et al.. still needs to be operated before 
>being
>>>> possible to use the Foot Controller.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manual pp 19:
>>>> In punch-in mode, hitting Record will immidiately start overwriting 
>>>> a track at the location where Record is hit.  It isn't possible to 
>>>> activate recording and just punch in replacement material in bits 
>>>> where appropriate; IOW, 2880 doesn't have an input threshold 
>>>> detection mechanism.  Just be ready and record!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manual pp 23:
>>>> 2880 has only a very basic MIDI implementation: Sync, Start/Stop 
>>>> (recording), and Song Position Pointer.  Any mode buttons, 
>>>> mix/control faders et al.. needs to be manually pressed before using 
>>>> the sparse MIDI commands.
>>>>
>>>> It's strange not even the full Foot Controller functionality is MIDI 
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> When used with an external MIDI Clock Master device not sending 
>>>> contineous clock, the 2880 will still sync, but may lag behind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manual - nowhere:
>>>> It's clear the 2880 doesn't store any settings upon power-off, i.e. 
>>>> any use must be setup after each power-on by operating buttons and 
>>>> faders.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Conclusion: The 2880 is useful from the desk, on/at a keyboard and 
>>>> such,
>>>> or with it's designated Foot Controller, though this will still only 
>>>> provide limited remote control.


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn