Re: Stockhausen, R.I.P.

["L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

Yes,another thing ive realized is that i still tend to
spontaneously translate certain sentences in english
into my mothers lenguage which can have a drastic
difference in meaning like "work of art".
On the other hand we are humans and everybody bites
his tongue every once in a while trying to express
something,its only human but i do hate the media
blowing things out of proportion later to find out
that i felt for it.
Luis


--- Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:

> Hi Luis,
> I had the same feeling when I first heard about it.
> I don't know him but I know his older son very well:
> he is one of the 
> most beautiful souls ( and musicians) I have had the
> lucky to meet.
> I think it was also because of this that I
> immediately felt the need to 
> dig a little into his sentence to find how it
> represented a great 
> opportunity for the scandalistic tribe of newsmakers
> media ( in Italy 
> they seem to be the majority now).
> 
> I think it was certainly put in a manner that could
> offer its weak side 
> to bad thinkers and that was what it happened.
> I am happy that other people have had the same
> feeling and put some 
> deeper informations about it.
> 
> my best,
> luca
> www.unguitar.com
> 
> L.A. Angulo wrote:
> 
> >I donīt know Luca,i was actually a bit shocked when
> i
> >heard his statement in the german news,now reading
> >more about it,it seems that what he said was a bit
> >exagerated but then again thats the job of the
> >media.What bothers me about such event being
> compared
> >to art coming from such an artist is that great art
> is
> >beyond reality for the most part,but this event
> was.
> >Nothing to do with his music offcourse,and no doubt
> of
> >his genious,just a statement that can be easily
> >misinterpreted.
> >Luis
> >
> >
> >--- Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Luis,
> >>I think you have been putting this sentence in a
> >>dangerous way.
> >>
> >>Stockhausen was indeed very conceptual and ironic
> >>when he said that and 
> >>he payed a lot for this.
> >>His mistake was not having create the right
> context
> >>in which this 
> >>sentence could have had the right interpretation.
> >>
> >>Most of the information world took this yummy
> chance
> >>to denounce a big 
> >>offense to the disaster that had been happening on
> >>9/11.
> >>But this has shown once again how the provocative
> >>sentence by S. could 
> >>have some meaning.
> >>Just watch the latest directions that sculpture
> and
> >>most of the visual 
> >>art has taken and you will notice that the twin
> >>towers attack is using 
> >>the same violent language form that is inside many
> >>offensive 
> >>"conceptual" work of art. The difference is in
> being
> >>real or a fiction.
> >>
> >>The problem stays in the in the value of the
> concept
> >>over the value of 
> >>human sensitivity.
> >>Most of the art celebrated during the latest years
> >>is a work of violence 
> >>towards our sensitivity.
> >>Most of the information is using violence as an
> >>opportunity to get a 
> >>massive audience.
> >>So here come students that kill to be famous and
> >>artists who sectionate 
> >>a cow to be hyperrealists.
> >>
> >>Stockhausen's sentence brought its result showing
> >>the truth on the 
> >>surface of how people want to understand what they
> >>would like to listen to.
> >>
> >>It would have been safer for me to tell you this
> in
> >>italian, to be sure 
> >>that there could be no misunderstandings.
> >>
> >>Anyway, we are the post Karlheinz Stockhausen era.
> >>I think that he was the last of the most
> >>revolutionary composers.
> >>
> >>This means we are no more in the post-modern era.
> >>
> >>Now it's you.
> >>
> >>Luca
> >>www.unguitar.com
> >>
> >>Jeff Shirkey wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:06 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>I saw one the last interviews he gave yesterday
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>and he
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>said the 9/11 incident is one fo the most
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>impressive
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>form of art hes ever seen...
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>By "9/11 incident" did he mean the act of terror
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>itself? And, if so,  
> >>    
> >>
> >>>he called that "art"?
> >>>
> >>>Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
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