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ive got the krk rokit 10....barely have to turn it on...sturdy as hell-accidentally tossed it through a wall when i lost my balance...whoops tannoy system 800 monitors > From: rithma@rithma.org > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Powered Subs > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:21:46 -0800 > > I have a really fancy pair of recording moniters, which sound great, > then borrowed my friend's $200 KRK powered sub, and WHAT a > difference! just to be able to hear those frequencies, and though it > was cheap, > it sounds quite clean, to me. sturdily made. im curious how > different KRK subs sound, in your regular home studio, in comparison > to some $1000 jobbie.... > anyways, hello list, Rithers McVickers still lurking, just so busy > with the band i gots no time to write. > Finally got a semi-glitch free setup working with ableton 8 & > superlooper..., everything still crashes intermittently in the middle > of our set (anyone else have this problem? ableton just craps out for > no reason) > > take care and be well > rithers > > > On Dec 31, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > Kris wrote: > > "I'm going to buy a powered sub very soon. I narroweed it down to > > the following (below). Any experiences with these? I don't need to > > go stereo with a sub, right?" > > > > Let me start off by saying that I am NO expert on this subject matter. > > > > However, from 30 years of working in different capacities as a > > live sound engineer (mixing many different pop and african groups > > in 100 and 200 seater clubs > > in Santa Cruz, 1,000 seater Catalyst rock showclub and 2,000 person > > Civic Auditorium (Spirit of Africa Festival, et. al.), as an Audio > > Engineer in recording studios, > > as a Producer in recording studios and then just doing live sound > > for my own small gigs one thing occurs to me about subs: > > > > The human ear , with the exception of distortion in the sound, does > > not reproduce bass waves very accurately, due to their very long > > wave lengths. > > We really hear accurately in the midranges where our > > neurophysiological 'EQ' has strong peaks in the range of human > > intelligibitity. > > > > Also, saliently, one tends not to need the kinds of high wattage > > of subsonic speakers for most of the playing situations where we do > > our looping gigs. > > They would overwhelm the room and the frequency spectrum with their > > power (most of the ones you mentioned looking for). > > > > Also, depending on the crossover point of your sub (which you can > > set on anything decent), many excellent professional speaker > > systems (especially > > powered monitors) accurately handle frequencies down to 40 and 50 > > cycles. > > > > This means that subwoofers are usually called on to reproduce those > > frequencies that are at the very bottom (and somewhat innaccurate > > end of the audible spectrum) > > and the ones that we feel as much as hear.................those > > powerful 'rumbly' frequencies. > > > > Soooooo (conclusion time and a practical solution for subsonics in > > one's performances): > > > > I just went out and listened to a bunch of home stereo subwoofers > > that were in the $200-$300 range (and occasionally as cheap > > as $100 in sales) advertised at places like Fry's and concluded that > > though they didn't have tremendous wattage, power or volume, that > > they sounded excellent when > > added to my little RCF 10" monitors or my Mackie 12" powered > > monitors. The volume of these things is not loud, but at the normal > > volume that > > I play at in small venues, they really round the sound out well and > > were, well......................inexpensive and fit my budget (they > > are also not very large usually). > > > > The way I figure it, is: If you need more wattage than that for a > > gig, almost invariably, you will using a pro sound system for the > > performance, > > so, in a way, why pay a lot of money for something that is both > > overkill and heavy and bulky to cart around. > > > > Then you can put the $700-$800 you save towards your next tony > > miniature tube preamplifier or you obsessive collection of Robert > > Fripp memorabilia. > > > > Now, I'm totally okay to change my mind about these conclusions if > > there are people who have a lot more knowledge than me on the > > subject, but > > I found this to be a perfectly acceptable solution for the > > reproduction of subsonic frequencies in my live looping performances. > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! |