AW: Looping venue help

["Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>]

Hi Krispen (and everyone else), 

> plays for a living. You could take it even further and say 
> that when you play for fee, but don't really need the money, 
> you are doing that same. It all depends on your political and 

This is a very dangerous line of argument. It's called communism and
socialism, and leads to dictatorship, torture, mass murder, economic
breakdown and in the final outcome, to a world where there isn't a place 
for
your crazy stuff (nor for your well-paying day job).

> festival.  In this case, paying for free/fee doesn't appear 
> to be a problem, because this is not the type of event or 
> music that is inherently designed to be profit generating, 

The "kind of event" approach is very important to me as a non-professional
who is not dependent on earning money from making music. I myself don't 
have
the slightest problem to play without getting paid if nobody else gets paid
for it directly or indirectly. While I didn't do (or asked you to explain 
to
me) the math for things like BEMF or Y2Kloopfestival, it's rather obvious 
to
me that if these events generate some actual earnings, it would be in the
range of, let's say, 20 to 30 bucks per musician. I believe this money is
better invested in a) amenities from which the musicians at the festival
benefit, b) compensation for the festival manager (we're still talking 
about
that kind of money where someone working his ass off for months on end may
get, if he's lucky, a few hundred dollars).

If, on the other hand, I'm asked to play at a typical profit-oriented place
(Krispen's restaurant, a club, especially the places which charge 
admission,
but in general those places who see a chance to increase their EBIT by
having me play), I will ask for compensation. Again, due to the fact that
I'm not dependant on that income to survive, I'm open to plans which 
somehow
share the risk (like 80% of the door instead of a fixed salary). 


Summarizing: I will not give away my art if somebody else gets money from
it. I am happy to give away my art if all other parties get from the deal 
is
my art.

        Rainer