Re: attitude(how much to ask for)

["L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

Just curious friends,
so when you deal with club owners or venues how do you
determine then how much you should be paid,or how do
you figure out the economics of the city,town or venue
you are going to play beforehand?I know this is all
based on negotiation but where do you start and stop?
cheers
Luis




--- David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> My wife is a schoolteacher.  Talk about a profession
> that is 
> undervalued in this society!  (But she's got a great
> health plan, 
> which means we're not on the streets as a result of
> her bout with 
> lymphoma five years ago.  She won, by the way.)
> 
> Every one of us in this bidness watches in horror as
> profoundly 
> unworthy artists prosper while genius and innovation
> go begging. 
> There is no justice, and it's damn hard to get any. 
> I don't see much 
> point in raging about it.
> 
> Just yesterday, I put myself into a funk after
> hearing I was turned 
> down for a gig at a festival that I was sure I'd be
> perfect for.  And 
> the promoter is someone I thought was favorably
> inclined toward me 
> and my music. I grumbled to my booking agent briefly
> ("...reminded 
> that if you want a friend in the music business, get
> a dog.  And hope 
> he plays the banjo.') and then went back to work.
> 
> I make music that doesn't fall neatly into any
> category.  I write 
> songs that don't all sound like this or that, and I
> intersperse them 
> in performance with loop pieces, composed and
> improvised.  I'm too 
> weird for the singer-songwriter world and not weird
> enough for the 
> avant-garde or whatever you call it.  And on top of
> that, I'm too 
> fucking old to go to folk/bluegrass festivals in
> remote locations on 
> my own dime, sleep in the dirt, and work my way up
> from the 
> campground jams to the mainstage.  Plus: damn hard
> to schlep an 
> Echoplex and pedal board from campfire to campfire.
> 
> You deal with it.  You take the gig.  You do the
> best you can and 
> build your fan base the only way it's done: one at a
> time.  I figure 
> if I sell one CD Im ahead of the game, and if I
> bring home a few 
> email addresses for the spam list, that's a win too.
> 
> One of the best pieces of advice I ever got came
> when I interviewed 
> producer Ted Templeman for BAM Magazine.  He
> described his first 
> encounter with Van Halen, at a grubby club in
> Hollywood: a dozen 
> people in the room, but they were belting it out
> like it was a 
> sold-out show at the Forum.
> 
> I call it the "you-shoulda-been-there" approach: If
> there are four 
> people in the audience, send 'em all out of there
> telling their 
> friends they missed something great.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102,
> Oakland CA 94610-2730
> Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
> Web site: http://www.dgans.com
> 
> 
> 


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