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 Cool. :)  Actually, we've moved from a 
potentially OT topic to an actually looping topic.  What I sent Todd were 
just max pitch shifting patches...nothing looping oriented.  But anytime a 
looper can do interesting pitch gymnastics, that is a good thing in my 
book!   
  
So you think randomness makes a mess?  
I feel when it is harnessed appropriately, it can be a beautiful thing. It 
reflects the reality of the world, pockets of choas framed within order, the 
fact that we can't control everything in life, etc.  Now we're really on 
OT, but a while back I would have been horrified by the idea of my computer 
doing things for me randomly and not knowing what to expect. You could have 
called me a "control freak", and there are a lot of us on the list, I'm sure. 
Now, with my unbelievably stressful and orderly life with a corporate job, 3 
year old twins, etc, where everything is based on predicable schedules, I look 
forward to playing music and relinquishing some control and 
predictability.  It creates a nice balance for me. 
  
Kris 
  
  ----- Original Message -----  
  I don't do random ...... I don't need a computer to make a mess for me, I 
  can do that myself.  Decimal point, yes ..... you can tweek the playback 
  speed from 0 to 16x ..... and any amount in between.  The semitone 
  buttons and tonal shifting options are for convenience in case you want to 
  shift ONLY to notes that are tonally related.
  In the case of building a 
  chord for example .... you can record the same tone to three tracks, then 
  shift one of them by +4 semitones(a major third) and another by +7 
  semitones(the fifth).  
  You can also stack while tweeking the 
  playback speed up and down .... the stacked audio will be smeared across the 
  audio (meaning you alter the record speed when you are recording and frequency 
  shifting) ..... you can do this with decay and have a smeared, decaying, 
  stacking, pitch shifted mess if you want .....
  and yes, multiple tracks 
  can be shifted by different amounts at the same time.  You can map it all 
  to midi controls and tweek on up and another down at the same time 
  .....
  flypaper is the stuff we had in the barn when I was a kid that 
  hung down from the ceiling and caught all the flys.
  any other 
  questions?
 
 
  
   
  From: "Krispen Hartung" 
  <khartung@cableone.net> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 
  2008 8:57 AM To: 
  Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch 
  shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)
  
  
   
  But can you randomly change pitch, control the 
  speed and range of randomness (or make that random), pitch change down to the 
  decimal point (semi tones and smaller or linear change), and do this with 
  multiple pitch changes simultaneously? :)    Ever heard of Fly 
  Paper? :) 
    
  Kris 
    
  
    ----- 
    Original Message -----  Flyloops can do pitch shifting too ..... 
    there are little +1 SEMITONE, -! SEMITONE buttons on the "tweek speed" 
    panel.  You click that button a few times til you get it up to where 
    you want to shift (4 semitones, say, for a major third) and then click the 
    loop track you want to shift by that amount.  You can also click the 
    "tonal shifting" checkbox and then turn a midi control knob to shift the 
    pitch only by semitones.   I should note that this is a 
    frequency shifter, not a pitch shiftier though ... so it speeds up 
    playback.  If the loops are set to sync (default), they will repeat 
    early to stay in time with the master. See the screenshot and 
    interactive demo at:  http://www.flyloops.com/demo/If you have a PC, 
    download here:   http://www.flyloops.com/download.htmwait about a 
    week and there should be a video on semitonal frequency shifting on the 
    webpage too ....  I'm a bit overdue for that one. 
     
    From: "todd reynolds" 
    <toddreyn@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 
    2008 12:25 PM To: 
    Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pitch 
    shifting and harmonizing again (emergency)thanks, Kris, 
    anxiously await!  please just make sure I can understand your 
    ins and outs, being the non max expert that I am, as you know... 
    ! t.  
    On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Krispen Hartung 
    < khartung@cableone.net> 
    wrote:
     
      
      Todd - I know you talked to Jeff (we just 
      talked as well), but I'll send you a few of my pitch patches, including 
      one that stacks 6 pitch shifters, and a few patches that sound very 
      Evantidish. 
        
      Kris 
      
      
        
      
  
      Hey 
        all, 
  I'm throwing this out there for our max 
        mavens... 
  My Eventide will not arrive in time for a piece I 
        need it for... TOMORROW... 
  damn.
  so here is my 
        predicament... Last time I tried to use gizmo~ to make a pitch shifter 
        which sounded good, I was entirely unsuccessful.  
  is there 
        any one of you out there who has a max patch which will harmonize with 
        two additional pitches above or below the root pitch which sounds great 
        which you'd be willing to send me?  I have to play single notes and 
        have it track well enough to sound like a chord in real 
        time. 
  thanks in advance for any support you might 
        give. 
  and best to all.
  Todd
 
 
 
 
  --  In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist 
        Steven Koplowitz on his work, Task Force
  The Bang on a Can 
        Institute follows in North Adams at MassMoCA.
  http://blog.toddreynolds.com
      
 
  --  In LA June 15-July 7th collaborating with artist Steven 
    Koplowitz on his work, Task Force
  The Bang on a Can Institute follows 
    in North Adams at MassMoCA.
  http://blog.toddreynolds.com
  
  
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